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Text 27316, 69 rader
Skriven 2009-02-08 00:35:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: Phelps Smokes a Bong
============================
Hello Ross,

On Saturday February 07 2009 12:13, you wrote to me:

 MV>> In this country adultery is not illegal and not ground for
 MV>> divorce.

 RC> That is because your country compared to many others dont have many
 RC> morals, no offense.

Not less morals, different morals. No offence taken.

 MV>> Are you telling me that in the US not only is it ground for
 MV>> divorce, but also ground to fire someone from his job?

 RC> Having ones spouse cheat and either admit to it or being caught is
 RC> grounds for divorce.. Are you saying that in the Netherlands a spouse
 RC> has to put up with obvious infidelity?

Not if he/she does not want to. Infidelity as such however is not a matter for
the law. It used to be, but those days are long gone. If people wish to have a
realtionship where they limit sexual contact to each other, they are free to do
so, but it is not part of the legal arrangement that is known as "marriage".

The way out is "duurzame verstoring van de relatie", which I think best
translates as "irreversible disruption of the relation". Or in plain English if
the marriage has gone sour. Adultery can be the cause of a marriage going sour,
but so can alcoholism or the simple fact that the partners are no longer
interested in each other.

 RC> As for employment, no.. Not usually..

 RC> I would imagine that a high profile celebrity might have stumbling
 RC> blocks in getting work if they had a very nasty high profile public
 RC> divorce,

Don't movie actors do that all the time?

 RC> but as a rule its not part of any employment agreement I know
 RC> of.. Perhaps Ministers of Churches could be forced off the pulpit if
 RC> they divorced?

I wouldn't know. Depends on the church I'd say. I know a minister of a very
liberal church who his divorced, remarried and has two mistressis.  I met his
former wife, his present wife and his two mistressis at the funeral of his
mother.

Not my cup of thea, but here you go.

[..]

 MV>> Nevertheless, I find such clauses in a contract between employer
 MV>> and employee immoral.

 RC> What contracts do you find moral?

Hard to say, but I do know an immoral contract when I see one.

I think it is immoral for an employer to claim 24/7 conformation to the party
line from a hired hand.  Only slaves are on duty 24/7.

And when an employee is off duty, what he/she does is none of his/her boss'
business as long as he/she turns up sober at he next shift.


Cheers, Michiel

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