Text 28199, 63 rader
Skriven 2009-02-27 13:12:56 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 28148 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Rights
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27 Feb 09 18:44, David Drummond wrote to Lee Lofaso:

 RB>>>> The trouble with rights is that it's easy to give them up, but
 RB>>>> usually costs a great deal of effort (not to mention blood) to
 RB>>>> regain them.

 DD>>> There are no such things as inalienable rights,

 LL>> As Thomas Jefferson so eloquently stated, inalienable rights are
 LL>> those rights endowed upon us by our Creator.  Among those
 LL>> inalienable rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 DD> That shows that Jefferson (a mere mortal after all) was wrong.

The most correct man if there ever was one.

 DD> 1) Many people in USA are denied their life - even by the regime of
 DD> the day in those states that support capital punishment;

Absolutely. The right of the people to distinguish the life of a murdering
bastard.

 DD> 2) USA has more of its citizens per capita deprived of their liberty
 DD> by the regime of the day than any other country;

Wrong. You're thinking of Australia.

 DD> 3) There are an awful lot of unhappy USA persons - as shown by the
 DD> numbers of those above who do things that lead to their situation of
 DD> life or liberty removal.

You mean the lazy, no accounts who perpetrate crimes on innocent women and
babies! Do they really deserve to live?

 DD>>> just privileges granted by the regime of the day, and removable
 DD>>> as they see fit.

 LL>> No government is God.  Government is a creation of man.  The purpose
 LL>> of government is to protect the rights of man.  Not take those
 LL>> rights away.

 DD> The government grants/tolerates those "rights" - until it takes them
 DD> away. Governments are there to run the country - how ever many rights
 DD> must be trodden on to do that.

 DD> If some supreme being had granted the "rights" and intended them to
 DD> be inalienable, surely that supreme being would do something to stop
 DD> them (the "rights") being removed.

 DD> God exists only in the imaginations of those who believe.

That same God said not to test him...you've just done so and blasphemed
his name as well. Not that I care, mind you.

                R\%/itt


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 who reads nothing but newspapers." - Thomas Jefferson


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