Text 31288, 106 rader
Skriven 2009-04-13 11:47:41 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 31262 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Bank Security
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12 Apr 09 09:04, Robert Bashe wrote to Roy Witt:

 RB> Roy Witt wrote to Robert Bashe on Saturday April 11 2009 at 17:15:

 RW>>>> Yes it is...it represents K6RXT on a alphanumeric pad.

 RB>>> On a telephone.

 RW>> And a ATM pad.

 RB> I'd LOVE to see you try to enter that on most of the German ATMs.
 RB> You'd probably get so frustrated you'd injure your fist hitting the
 RB> machine.

I wouldn't have a problem at all: 5 6 7 9 8...
                                  K 6 R X T...

 RW>>>> I cannot deny the fact that my PIN is K6RXT...

 RB>>> What you really mean is the numeric equivalent if you were using a
 RB>>> phone keyboard.

Finally.

 RW>> Finally, you figured it out.

 RB> I figured that out the first time you mixed up phones with ATMs.

No mix up.

 RB> What I haven't been able to do is convince you that not all ATMs
 RB> throughout the world use alphanumeric keyboards, even in the sense
 RB> you use, with "ABC" equal to "2" and the like. Quite a lot of them
 RB> have only the numbers on the keyboard - but what the hell, believe
 RB> what you want to believe.

There's no need to try to convince me of that. All I've been trying to
do is get it through your thick skull that the two are synonymous with
each other.

 RB>>> You can't enter such an ATM PIN in any German ATM, and I doubt you
 RB>>> can do so elsewhere. Just numbers.

 RW>> I never said otherwise.

 RB> So what are we talking about?

 56798
 K6RXT

 RB>>>>> If you like, I'll take a picture of the ATM keyboards here at my
 RB>>>>> bank, give you the URL, and then ask point-blank if that is what
 RB>>>>> you have at _your_ bank. No alphabetic keys here or anywhere else
 RB>>>>> I've ever seen.

 RW>>>> That's too bad...

 RB> Normal. When the bank sends you your ATM PIN about a week after the
 RB> bank card or credit card was sent,

I got those at the bank on the same day, simultaneously.

 RB> you get a four- or five-digit list of NUMBERS. No alphanumerics.
 RB> Anything you make of that is your own personal affair.

Actually, I told the person taking the ATM card info that the ATM PIN
would be K6RXT...she had no problem with inputing that into the system.

 RB>>> I don't hear any offer to reciprocate.

 RW>> Since you've finally figured it out, there's no reason to bother.

 RB> Roy, there was never any uncertainty except on your side.

On the contrary, I've never been so certain of what I was saying.

 RB> But I understand why you don't want to post a picture of an American
 RB> ATM - presumably there are also only numbers on that too (unless some
 RB> use phone alphanumerics, which are NOT!! standard throughout the
 RB> world.

#1, You nor anyone else would be able to access the photo, unless you/they
    have a FACEBOOK account. (that's the only place where I post photos)

#2, I'd have to take a trip into the past to take the photo. (ATMs had
    alphanumeric keypads in 1987)

#3, There are no ATM pads today that have alphanumeric keypads.

 RB>>>  Unsure of yourself?

 RW>> I'm as sure footed as a mule headed down the trail into the Grand
 RW>> Canyon.

 RB> And as long-winded as a tourist trying to ascend the last 100
 RB> vertical feet at the same place. Been there, done that.

I'm sure you've run out of wind long before you got that far.

                R\%/itt




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