Text 35555, 108 rader
Skriven 2009-09-03 09:37:01 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 35514 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Fruity looping
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02 Sep 09 11:02, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to ROY WITT:

 TR> On 09-01-09, ROY WITT said to TIM RICHARDSON:


 RW>> 26 Aug 09 05:53, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to DAVID DRUMMOND:



 TR>> And its all in a *ho hum* sort of atmosphere; nobody looks at anyone
 TR>> (everyone's busy reading paperwork, affidavits, etc etc), the
 TR>> procedure goes through as many as 20 or more defendents, a few of
 TR>> whom may be sitting in the audience (lucky enough to make bail, or
 TR>> were just `cited' to appear).


 RW>> Obviously California justice. It doesn't work that way here. Mainly
 RW>> because the court rooms in these ancient Texas courthouses are so
 RW>> small that only one defendent can appear at one time. The local DA
 RW>> has complained about it and even though he's not running for
 RW>> re-election, is working a campaign to get new facilities. When
 RW>> there's a domestic case, like a divorce or spousal abuse, they all
 RW>> have to sit together, since there's no center isle to seperate them.


 TR> In California courts, you will go through a metal detector prior to
 TR> being allowed to enter the building. Typically, about 6 or eight
 TR> heavily-armed, very large LEO's are there at the entrance.

Been there, done that.

 TR> If you enter a courtroom that you are supposed to be in, and the
 TR> court isn't in session, neither the judge, any of the clerks, or even
 TR> the asst.DA are as yet in the courtroom, and you open a newspaper to
 TR> glance at the headlines, a very large, beligerent LEO will walk over
 TR> and order you to put the newspaper away, reading is not allowed in
 TR> the courtroom!

Ahhh, so I can't review my case file while in the court room?

 TR> If you sort of slouch down on the bench as you wait for the judge and
 TR> other court staff to arrive, that same LEO (or his look-alike) will
 TR> walk over and loudly order you to `sit up straight'! I kid you not!

Who the hell is this guy?

 TR> I have actually seen people who were approached by an LEO in one of
 TR> these manners, and told the LEO to `stuff it'! get grabbed by two or
 TR> more LEO's, get dragged to the door that leads into the `lock-up'
 TR> part of the building, and be brought into the courtroom *in
 TR> handcuffs!* when their name was called and actually charged with
 TR> disorderly conduct, and sometimes even (if the person tries to yank
 TR> away from the LEO's grip, or otherwise struggles in any way)
 TR> resisting arrest!

Ahhh, justice in the hands of the socialists...no wonder people are
leaving California in droves.

 TR> And the goddamn judge goes along with it!

Of course, he's the guy who tells the LEO what to do.

 TR>> Its like a bad play being played out in front of a bored-to-death
 TR>> audience, none of whom can just get up and walk out in the middle.


 RW>> I often wondered what would happen if the on-lookers and defendants
 RW>> got so bored that they started a riot. If you're a non-participant
 RW>> and you can't get out, what then, collateral prosecution?


 TR>> It isn't a `justice system' anymore.


 RW>> It is here. I don't know how long this has been the case, but there
 RW>> is no security in the local courthouse. People can come and go
 RW>> without ever running into a metal detector or deputy search at the
 RW>> entrance.


 TR> Here in California you could enter and leave courthouses freely, up
 TR> to 9\11.

Nahhhh. I was turned away from entering the court house downtown San Diego
because I had a 2 3/4" pocket knife. I had to take it back to my car or
rent a safety deposit box at the hotel across the street. And this was way
before 9/11.

 TR> At that point, the LEO's locked down all government buildings, and
 TR> subject everyone entering and sometimes leaving as well, to going
 TR> through metal detectors, They even have nearby rooms where they take
 TR> people once in awhile and subject them to a more intense, hands-on
 TR> search. Even public libraries have metal detectors that a certain
 TR> amount of metal on your person will set off a loud alarm, and
 TR> security people pour out of a side room to detain and pat you down! A
 TR> fuckin' library!

That's how it is in San Antonio, I'm told. I went into the Sequin, TX
court house to inquire about a tax lien sale and was confronted by two
deputies and a metal detector. They were friendly enough and very
cooperative. Come to find out they post the lien sales on the main
entrance to the court house, which is now locked.

                R\%/itt

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