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Skriven 2009-09-04 06:09:00 av WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av LEE LOFASO
Ärende: Universal health insu 1/
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-=> LEE LOFASO wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 LL> Hello Wayne,

 >LL>The way it is designed folks have to go through hoops to benefit.

 >WC>Well the health department is two blocks from here, they could certainly
 >WC>certify my need for extra help.

 >LL>It is not the criteria of need that counts.  One could be totally broke
 >LL>and not be eligible.  Among the criteria is if the individual is living
 >LL>alone or not.  If the individual is not living alone, then regardless
 >LL>of income, he/she is not eligible for extra help.

 WC>Oh brother do I live alone.
 WC>Hope to change that soon though.

 LL> I thought you had given up dogs after Spanky.

Dogs yes, my ex no now that she's clean and sober.
Spanky was special.

 >WC>However I acknowledge getting help through government programs make
 >WC>you jump through hoops.
 >WC>Thus it was so when I attended Abilities of Florida for training
 >WC>to go back to work.

 >LL>There is no incentive for those with disabilities to go back to
 >LL>work.  Even if they could, it would stupid for them to do so.

 WC>Yes and yes.
 WC>I am however a workaholic and perfectionist so Igave
 WC>it the good old college try.
 WC>A sixteen year old in a Suzuki Samarai put and end to my efforts.

 LL> Unfortunately, the system as it is set up here does not work for
 LL> everybody.  The rest of the civilised world has already gone through
 LL> the process of enacting a health care system that is accessible for
 LL> everybody, and none of those countries wants to go back to what they
 LL> had before.  But the USA will eventually turn the corner and join
 LL> the rest of the world.

I'm at a loss to understand the sway and effect the right wing nutjobs
are having on destroying health care reform.
They don't like cheaper and better?

Like sheep led to slaughter.

> WC>Yup, and a painfull and protracted experience it was understanding
 >WC>that legislation.

 >LL>Don't worry.  Obama will fix it.  :)

 >WC>Not so sure of that, he's taking the bipartisan approach and that's wron

 >LL>Nothing wrong to extend an olive branch and invite the opposition
 >LL>to join you in finding solutions that work for the common good.  But
 >LL>when that opposition chooses to do nothing but thumb its nose in your
 >LL>face, refusing to offer any kind of a solution at all, it is time to
 >LL>pull the plug on such offers of bipartisanship.  Especially when you
 >LL>have the numbers to pass much needed legislation even without their
 >LL>help.

 WC>Uh, there are some Democrats too on the list of big lobbiest money
 WC>takers, enough to easily defeat the supermajority.

 LL> A strong president will know how to twist arms, and not be afraid
 LL> to break bones if necessary.

 WC>We're talking big money too from hundreds of thousands to millions.
 WC>Crooksandliars listed some a few days back.

 LL> Whatever passes will have the support of the doctors, pharmaceutical
 LL> companies, insurance companies, and lawyers.  All of whom are making
 LL> big bucks now with our private insurance company scam.  Gonna have to
 LL> wean `em off that easy money in order to have true health care reform
 LL> in this country.

Good luck with that, seems to me after food and sex greed is
the third most basic drive for most people.

 WC>This country is sunk until we eliminate such big money givaways
 WC>to politicians from the private sector.
 WC>Why do we even bother to pay them?

 WC>Congress no longer serves us but rather the military industrial complex,
 WC>phamacutical industry, insurance industry and big oil.

 LL> Big oil doesn't bother me, as folks can go to alternative fuels if
 LL> necessary.  But it is kind of difficult to avoid going broke if one
 LL> gets sick and is in need of hospitalization.

 WC>There are a few honest holdouts but it's a minority.

 LL> When you really think about it, Burt Reynolds' comment in the movie
 LL> "Deliverance" was right on the mark - "All insurance is scam."  Doctors
 LL> in Europe are well-paid.  Doctors in Japan are well-paid.  Doctors in
 LL> Australia are well-paid.  Doctors in every civilized country in the
 LL> world is well-paid.  Why the need to deny coverage to those who are
 LL> poor, or who have a pre-existing condition?  Pregnancy is a
 LL> pre-existing condition.  Should pregnant women be forced to have their
 LL> babies on street corners?


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