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Skriven 2007-07-10 07:37:21 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
   Kommentar till text 4082 av Roy Witt (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: CIA's Family Jewels
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 BF>> You are still confusing me, you think the world of GWB and then say that
 BF>> the country shold be run by the center.

 RW> Where did I say that I "think the world of GWB"?

You have said that you can't think of anthing that he have done was wrong so
then it must be true.

 BF>> According to you, everything that you don't believe in is far left.

 RW> No, there are some things on the far right that I don't believe in.

I've asked you before to mention anything but so far without any answer.

 BF>>>> Whatever the left is in your
 BF>>>> centre eyes. Wasn't it a majority of the American people that voted GWB
 BF>>>> into power...?

 RW>>> As a matter of fact, he did not. His opponent in the 2000 election got
 RW>>> more of the popular votes than did Bush. However, Bush won the election
 RW> by
 RW>>> a talley of votes by the Electoral College. He who wins the most states
 RW>>> with the most Electoral votes, wins the election. Gore won California,
 RW>>> which has the most Electoral votes and should have swayed the election
 RW> in
 RW>>> his favor, it didn't. Had Gore actually won his own home state, he would
 RW>>> have won the election. Had he been able to win the state of the POTUS he
 RW>>> served under, he would have won the election (he didn't). It was that
 RW>>> close.

 BF>> By this you say that USA isn't a democracy.

 RW> Where did I 'say' that?

In a democracy, the one that get the most votes wins.

 BF>> The POTUS isn't elected by a majority of the people but of his buddys
 BF>> that can make the most money out of him.

 RW> Wrong. The majority of the people are represented by people appointed to
 RW> the Electoral College. These people are from the state they represent and
 RW> are, for the most part, representative of the majority vote of the people.
 RW> i.e. If a Democrat wins the majority votes in, say California, the
 RW> California Electoral College votes for that candidate, giving him all of
 RW> the 54 available votes. These votes represent the will of the majority of
 RW> voters.

And the Electrocal College isn't the POTUS buddys?

 RW> However you may consider this, your country is as you say mine is, in
 RW> electing your leaders. The big difference is that you vote for a
 RW> representative, who may or may not vote for your leader, among the
 RW> majority of his peers.

We can vote for one particular candidate on the party list.

 BF>>>> And yet the left are in majority in everything in USA?

 RW>>> I think so.

 BF>> Then you live in just as a pink country that I do.

 RW> As I pointed out above, slightly less pink than Sweden. But, by being
 RW> slightly pink, this is how the left gets it's voters. Hand-out programs
 RW> for those too damned lazy to work for a living.

Prejudice?

 RW>>> However, it's not the majority who always wins here.

 BF>> Oh shit, it is here.

 RW> I doubt that.

Believe what you want.

 BF>> Why bother having an election at all?

 RW> So the crooks can make it look like it's our choice, not theirs.

Isn't it the way it is now?

 BF>> How can you be in the center when you worship everything GWB has done?

 RW> I don't worship everything he's done. I agree with a lot of what he's
 RW> done, but there are things he's done that I don't agree with.

The war in Iraq for example or is that to be un-American, un-patriotic and a
traitor?

 RW> There are a lot of people in the USA who are not whackos...you just
 RW> haven't heard of any since they're not as controversial as the whackos. If
 RW> you watch the way the election is going next year, you'll find a lot of
 RW> people who are on the whacko trail, while the voices of reason will stand
 RW> out from the whackos. They'll eventually be loud and clear and heard above
 RW> those whackos.

If you say that the loudest in USA are the wackos it must be like that here in
Fido
as well, don't you think?

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