Text 5645, 79 rader
Skriven 2007-08-19 06:35:32 av Paul Sanders (3:633/104)
     Kommentar till en text av shannon talley
Ärende: Mob Rules
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st>First and foremost, I don't care about the "down" flag.  Mr. Luko (RC13)

bull.

st>After observing this, I simply made the blanket comment that /someone/ had
st>tinkered with it.  Everyone drew lines to Malcolm, -- I didn't.... Hell --

After I posted a cut & pastes from nodelist.222 you said that the info
was wrong, and it must have been 'tinkered' with, I get my updates
from Malcolm, the Z3C, there is no one else between Malcolm & Z1, but
you knew that already.

st>This could have been a nice conversation regarding this issue, but several
st>of you had to escalate the tension factor by name calling, snide comments,
lets see, I posted:

(snip)
Hi Dale,

 DS>  It would have been his NC who would/should have made the change
 DS> -- and he has announced that the change will be in nodelist 229.

his NC fibbed and submitted the change early.
(snip)
you responded with:

(snip)

> his NC fibbed and submitted the change early.

No.  Someone else tinkered with your nodelist after it left Z1 and
made several changes to my nodelist segment.  Download a copy of .222
from the Z1C and you can clearly see that my node is still 'up' -- and
-- the segment differs from the one in general distro on your side of
the Atlantic.
(snip)

It has now been shown (by the Z1C no less) that your NC (or RC) did in
fact submit the changes early, but no, shannon could never believe
that, could he, so shannon goes right on denying that the changes were
done by a Z1 person.

And the nodelist cut & paste I showed, what was it..
(snip)
From nodelist.222:
Down,311,FidoTel_BBS,Virginia_Beach_VA,Shannon_Talley,-Unpublished-,30
0,CM,INA:fidotel.com,IBN,IFT:22,IFC

(snip)

And how does shannon appear in nodelist.229:

Down,311,FidoTel_BBS,Virginia_Beach_VA,Shannon_Talley,-Unpublished-,30
0,CM,INA:fidotel.com,IBN,IFT:22,IFC

st>I asked a pretty good question, several of you made some very demeaning
st>comments, and now this is where it is.  The "MOB" mentality based on
st>inaccurate assumptions and poor communication.   THIS is what the pride of
st>Fidonet echos has evolved to.

trying to shift the 'blame' off to others, as usual, could not have
been a Z1 person that stuffed up, the changes to your nodelisting must
have been done after the segment left Z1

st>Now -- after all this, Mr. Van der Vlist was the only one to publish a sane
st>and possible scenario regarding what may have happened.  Quote: "No, the bad
st>flags that appeared in Ward's message were a copy and paste thing on his
st>part. This is how it appeared in the Z2 version of nodelist.222:" So while
st>the rest of you were jumping on the Mob wagon, Michiel read the message I
st>wrote for what it was and posted a hypothesis.  Thank you for being the sane
st>one in the crowd Michael.

Ward & Roy made the same comment about Wards' cut & paste.

That aside, you continued to claim how the segment I posted was wrong,
and how it must have been changed *after* it left Z1

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