Text 5831, 127 rader
Skriven 2007-09-08 09:52:58 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
   Kommentar till text 5829 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
Ärende: Global Warming
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Hello Janis!

08 Sep 07 00:15, you wrote to me:

 >> it seems to me you take offense that he cared to express his
 >> opinion, which just happens to run contrary to what I think you
 >> believe to be the politically correct opinion to have.

 JK> Here's an example of twisting crap..

 JK> I'm taking about scientific FACTS. He is happy to spout numbers and
 JK> data which do not agree with Scientific fact.. oh no.. don't tell me
 JK> you are one of them Flat-earthers hahaha

He should be happy to have the right to spout his opinion, regardless of how
you think he arrived at it.

 >> *begin analogy*

 >> Just look at yourself, if we were talking about *religion* and you
 >> were a *believer*, and he decided to say he was *otherwise*, would
 >> you be calling him out on his disbelief and start tossing names of
 >> religious clerics or to simplify this *analogy* tell him a vast
 >> portion of the world believes in religion, therefore he should too?

 JK> Oh man your logic is way bad :) :)  If he didn't believe in GOG..oops
 JK> God, I wouldn't have a care :)

But you do care that he doesnt share the same opinion as you, regarding global
warming et al.

 >> *end analogy*

 JK> BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD anology :)

No, it was a good analogy.

 >> So you have spoken to all of them, I dont think so.

 JK> No, I just read the news, just like you...but I READ it :)

You also think Michael Moore and Al Gore are the penultimate authorities on
everything, nuff said.. :)

On drudgereport, it is said that Gore is tooling around on a Luxury Private
Jet, but I know you will discredit Drudge, so point is, what makes your news
sources any more credible?

If you must know, I dont watch the boob tube for my news, unless its something
really breaking news, like storm coverage, police chases etc, I use a news
crawler that scours the web for RSS newsfeeds, like from the AP.

You can do the same by installing the SAGE plugin into Firefox.

 >>> [http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2004/03/22
 >>> /w arming_rend_blamed_for_syrup_season_change/]... Apples are
 >>> growing in Anchorage for the first time in history
 >>> [http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/homestyle/08/08
 >>> /climate.gardening.ap/

 >> and we both know that the two of us, regardless of the topic, could
 >> dredge up articles on the internet to support our individual
 >> positions..

 JK> But you can't argue the fact that the planet is warmer than it was.
 JK> And Vermont is having PROBLEMS making Maple syrup..and Anchorage is
 JK> able to grow apples.. And the polar bears are DROWNING as the ice
 JK> shelf melts
 JK> [http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article767459.ece]

What I cannot argue is irrelevant, I still could dredge up articles that refute
yours.

 >>> I love a good Science Fiction book, or movie it's true.  I wish
 >>> this was Science fiction, but I don't think it is.

 >> Point I was making, Martin doesnt have to be a climatologist to be
 >> skeptical.

 JK> No, he doesn't. but he DOES try to make his points by insulting
 JK> others.... others who can actually read the facts.

Just so you know, Martin is not a US Citizen, he hails from the UK, he
currently resides in the Pacific Rim, since the current scientific theories say
that all this ice melt will eventually trigger an ice age by virtue of the fact
that it will dilute the oceans enough to thwart the North Atlantic ocean
currents, I would think Martin would have a vested interest in these theories
since his home country and most of Europe owes its moderate climate to the Gulf
Stream.

 >> Martin has decided to not buy into media frenzy and such this topic
 >> has attracted, speaking for myself, I aint totally convinced, but I
 >> aint totally skeptical, I am a helluvalot closer to the fence on
 >> this issue than you, suffice it to say.

 JK> Well there's hope for somethings <g>... really, I don't think I have
 JK> to worry. MOST people feel and see what's going on.

Yes, almost the entire month of August, we had temps that were 100F and
greater.

In my lifetime, I also had the experience to have felt record cold/icy/snowy
winters, so whats your point?

I was on the NOAA site this morning, looking for data on Gabrielle, saw an
article that they feel La'Nina is building in, in the Pacific, Ocean Cooling.

As you know, both El'Nino and La'Nina have affects on our weather.

I believe it was El'Nino that kept the 2006 Atlantic Hurrican season as quiet
as it was.

 >> Ok, back to the religion topic, those that are skeptical, will burn
 >> in hell..

 JK> Not in my world <g>

Yes, its ok for you to be skeptical about things you dont believe in, but its
not ok for others to be skeptical about things you believe in.

==
Ross
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