Text 9853, 72 rader
Skriven 2008-01-15 15:08:44 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
   Kommentar till text 9777 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Big Brother is Watching YOU!
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 BF>> Here we can take the car out of traffic and not pay either tax or
 BF>> insurance

 MvdV> I think we can do that here as well, one can suspend the license but
 MvdV> then you can not use it al all until you get it reinstated.

If it's out of traffic it is.

 BF>>  and on the rear plate there is a sticker with a check number
 BF>> when the car is supposed to be at the annual inspection.

 MvdV> We had those stickers too, but stickers can be forged and they were
 MvdV> aboandonned in favour of a central database a decade ago. Surf to
 MvdV> https://www.rdw.nl/Ovi/Paginas/Default.aspx and enter the vehicle
 MvdV> registration number in the yellow license plate. Mine is ZD-96-SV and
 MvdV> you can see that the yearly inspection is due on 28-11-2008 (Vervaldatum
 MvdV> APK) and that it is insured (WAM verzekerd gerigistreerd)

We don't get our sticker unless the tax and the annual inspection is done and
that sticker change colour every year so it's easy for the cops to see if
everything
is Ok and I dont't think our sticker is easy to forge either. It's made of a
reflex
material and have an area looking like a scratch card that you scratch when it
is taken out of traffic. The sticker also contain the cars reg, nr. and it is
totally
impossible to remove it in one piece.

 MvdV> Tampering with the database is a lot harder than forging a sticker.

See above.

 MvdV>>> So there is no need for a cop to check for insurance. The computer at
 MvdV>>> the central data base will beep whether the car is on the road or not.

 BF>> No beep at all here.

 MvdV> The motor vehicle authority sends a warning two month before the
 MvdV> inspoection expires. You have a two moth window to submit it for
 MvdV> inspection or submit it to an authorised demolition site for demolition.
 MvdV> Failure to act voids the registration and makes you subject to a fine.

Here the cops have to stop us while driving. They have to caught us red-
handed, otherwise it is a thought crime.......

 MvdV> I do not know what happenes if you fail to insure. Never let that
 MvdV> happen...

We have a special insurance that takes care of those who doesn't have an
own insurance but that only takes care of the other part and then they take
you to court to make you pay it later.

 BF>> The cop have to either use the radio or his cell.
 BF>> It's also possible to send a SMS to the car-register and get an answer
 BF>> and even I can do that.

 MvdV> I do not think SMS is possible here. Only via InterNet.  And unless you
 MvdV> are duly authorised you do not get the name and address of the owner.

I can see if my neighbours car is Ok.

 BF>> Perhaps the police in Stockholm can do that here but not so here. When
 BF>> the new digital police radio system is working that should have been
 BF>> working a year ago it might be possible for them to check online.

 MvdV> Digital radios (C2000) have been in operation for a couple of years now.

This is a new system that all cars with blue-light should be in + almost all
government cars.

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