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Text 11150, 80 rader
Skriven 2010-10-07 19:20:01 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 11068 av David Drummond (3:640/384)
Ärende: United States of Mexico
===============================
04 Oct 10 18:21, David Drummond wrote to Roy Witt:

 DD> On 3/10/10 15:28, Roy Witt -> David Drummond wrote:

 DD>>> Roy is NOT a citizen of "America" - He is a citizen of "The United
 DD>>> States of America"

 RW>> Which, like many other countries, equates to American by the mere
 RW>> fact that 'America' appears in the official name and has been used
 RW>> to refer to the US in world wide recognized bodies, such as the
 RW>> United Nations.

 RW>> Try this, perhaps you'll be able to eventually get the concept:

 RW>> What do you call the people of the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

 RW>> Are they referred to as Democratics, Democratic Republicans or are
 RW>> they just Congolese?

 RW>> How do you refer to the people of the Democratic Peoples' Republic
 RW>> of Korea or The Republic of Korea? Hint: there are two countrys that
 RW>> use the name of Korea.

 DD> And "Koreans" refers to all of them. It is a geographical/racial
 DD> term, not an indicator of their nationality.

Wrong! They define each other by adding 'north' or 'south' to their
national identity. Before there were two identically named countries on
the penninsula, it was known as Korea and the country was also known
as Korea. Since the advent of two seperate nations, they are distinguished
by their country's name.

 RW>> What do you call the people of the Federated States of Micronesia?

 DD> If the term "American" refers only to the people of "United States of
 DD> America" then what is the collective term for all the peoples of the
 DD> Americas?

There isn't one. There are three distinct references, South America,
Central America and North America. No one refers to any person on these
continents so widely as to include them in a reference as Americans.

 DD> We have "Europeans" for the peoples of Europe,

We? You have a mouse in your pocket? The peoples of Europe are known more
so by their nationality, not by the continent. Germany is on the Europeon
continent, but we call the people Germans, not Europeons. If you wish to
reference all people living on the continent, then you would use
Europeons. But that isn't specification for any citizenship.

 DD>  "Africans" for the peoples of Africa,

South Africans, perhaps. People living in Egypt are known as Egyptions,
not Africans. Again, nationality, not continent.

 DD> "Asians" for the peoples of Asia and "Polynesians" for the peoples of
 DD> Polynesia.

Same old, same old. Chinese, Japanese, Polynesians. Not Asians.

 DD> It doesn't really matter Roy - you will continue to use the term
 DD> "American" and I will continue to use the term 'United States
 DD> American".

But you'll be ignored or asked by others, to whom do you refer when you
say Americans when you're speaking in general? We thought you meant
Americans from America.

 DD> Some people will be confused about who you're actually referring to,
 DD> no-one will misunderstand me.

That's exactly the opposite of what you've already been told by others.
America has been the name referred to by many people of the world and
everyone knows of whom they speak. Not so in your case.

                R\%/itt

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