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Text 1227, 71 rader
Skriven 2009-11-12 23:18:00 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
   Kommentar till text 1226 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: FidoNews 26:45 [01/0
============================
Hello Björn!

13 Nov 09 04:01, you wrote to me:

 BF>    And, BTW, Mark, in the rest of the comment I commented on,
 BF> demonstrated that he understood perfectly well the difference between
 BF> Law and Constitution. You actually might benefit from rereading what
 BF> he wrote.

Irrelevant to what I was talking about, we were talking about free speech here
in Fidonet to be specific.

Until Lofaso starts running some sort of FTN software much less gets off his
arse and joins the network, I fail to see how the inner working of the network,
like the FTSC, applies to him, much less pose any interest to him. When I
pointed this out, I am all of a sudden stifling free speech, according to
Michiel.

Since his messages are successfully being scanned into and tossed from, as well
as being transported by the network, I fail to see any technical interest he
might have, unless he and Michiel are secretly coding a new pkt structure?
<<G>>

Back to free speech...

There is no way to enforce ones free speech rights in any private
organization.. For instance, in the workplace, you cannot engage in any speech
which can offend colleagues or clientele, w/o possibility of loss of employment
or other sanction. Down here in South Carolina, a number of years ago, in a
small town in its SE corner, street preachers perched themselves on the street
corners yelling and screeching religious dogma onto passersby, not only were
they excersing their right to free speech but freedom of religion. However,
they were disturbing the peace, but one could still argue about their rights..
However their rights duly ended when the rights of others began.

I cannot come into your house and just say anything and expect to remain an
invited guest.

 RC>> When a conference moderator rules a thread off topic, arent we by
 RC>> Michiels definitions, stifling free speech?

 BF>    No we are not. The person in question may very well keep "imparting
 BF> information and ideas" as much as said person wants. What the
 BF> conference moderator rules are saying is, that we in fidonet may stop
 BF> redistributing said information and ideas; which is well within *our*
 BF> human rights -- to decide what information we want to listen to.

By Michiels definition as what he has been throwing around lately, a tune he
has not always sung, btw, we would be stifling free speech by moderating
someone.

 RC>> I think what we are trying to say is Michiel is tossing that term
 RC>> around when it is convenient for him to do so.

 BF>    Yeah yeah yeah, what Michiel does is always wrong, isn't it? :)

Not at all, he is just not always right.. :-)

I'd like to meet Michiel someday, you too, I will have to wait until I win the
lottery so I can goto Europe and play Tourista.

BTW, the mail hub is running under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

==
Ross
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