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Skriven 2010-12-03 15:27:45 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 12849 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
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03 Dec 10 09:13, Robert Bashe wrote to Roy Witt:

 RB> Roy Witt wrote to Robert Bashe on Thursday December 02 2010 at 19:12:

 RB>>> The Pirate Bay doesn't host copyrighted material and is perfectly
 RB>>> legal under Swedish law.

 RW>> They don't now, but they have in the past.

 RB> You're misinformed. No torrent site hosts any copyrighted material.
 RB> Anyone who claims differently doesn't know what a torrent is.

I know what a torrent is and I've been to Pirate Bay's website.

 RB>>> That galled the powers-that-be in the States, who proceeded to put
 RB>>> pressure on the Swedes to shut down the site, thus more or less
 RB>>> applying US law to Sweden. Only _after_ that pressure was applied,
 RB>>> and apparently very firmly applied, did the Swedish government bow
 RB>>> down and proceed against the website.

 RW>> That wasn't entirely the US applying the pressure. There is also an
 RW>> entity (RIAA) similar to the US's content industry police in Europe.

 RB> Indeed, but in contrast to the situation in the States, not many of
 RB> them can induce their governments to pass special laws in their
 RB> favor.

I get a newsletter from them on a regular basis, what you're saying is
a line of crap.

 RB> That was particularly galling in Sweden, but meanwhile money
 RB> has apparently changed hands and Swedish law is "suddenly" in
 RB> conformity with American desires. In other words, the Swedes have
 RB> been bought.

Seen the light. Pretty soon their will be honest people in Europe again.

 RB>>> And not only there. The Internet is international, and a website
 RB>>> doesn't have to be located in one particular country. In the
 RB>>> meantime, the Dutch - pushed by their local RIAA - have proceeded
 RB>>> against the website, and who knows where the servers are now? At
 RB>>> any rate, it's a cat and mouse game, with no "victory" in sight.

 RW>> I agree with the latter.

 RB> At last! :-)))

Don't get your extra chins all flappy. I agree that it's a cat and mouse
game.

 RB> Anyway, the situation has already changed. The first stage was direct
 RB> P2P file transfers with things like eDonkey and Limewire. When that
 RB> became too dangerous (in terms of being caught) and too overloaded
 RB> with crap, people went over to torrents. In the meantime, that too
 RB> has become overmonitored by the powers-that-be and also contains a
 RB> lot of crap (including viruses and trojans), so nowadays direct
 RB> downloads from file sharing sites like Rapidshare are all the rage.
 RB> Naturally there's a lot of pressure on such sites to filter out
 RB> copyrighted material, but it's nearly impossible to do so, and
 RB> anyway, new sites appear every day.

 RB> Whatever happens next, it certainly won't be boring.

Probably a shooting war.

                R\%/itt

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