Text 13419, 101 rader
Skriven 2010-12-24 13:42:57 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 13412 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Red Light and Speed Cameras
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24 Dec 10 16:28, Robert Bashe wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>> There still are no 'speed cameras' anywhere in the USA, as they have
 RW>> in Europe, just real cops who patrol the highways like they should.

 RB> You denied there were red light cameras, too. And apparently forgot
 RB> that when telling your story about them in California.

Wrong! I denied that there were any red light cameras here. In fact, you
can look at the website that I provided to you and find at least 7 red
light cameras in San Antonio...which isn't here.

The site that Dale suggested is no where as accurate as he claims. i.e.
those same 7 red light cameras in San Antonio that show up on the list I
provided, aren't even mentioned on Dale's red light camera list.

Note also that on the site provided by Dale, there is no link to show
proof of their claim. Like Dale, you just have to believe what they say,
just like you expect everyone to believe you.

"Communities using SPEED CAMERAS as of December 2010"

"number of individual communities with programs: 80"

Note that there is no actual claim of cameras, just the existance of
'programs' which may include a speed camera budget, but no implementation.

And no link to prove their case.

They do provide a synopsis of traffic laws concerning red light and speed
cameras: i.e.

Texas

Automated enforcement

Note: A Texas municipality may not use an automated traffic control system
to enforce speed.


Violations - red light
Citations issued to whom? - registered owner
Who is liable? - owner
What image is taken? - 2 or more photographic or digital images of tag
Traditional enforcement penalty - $200 maximum fine
Auto enforcement penalties/record - $75; not a criminal or record offense

"Note that there are no answers to automated speed cameras, because there
are no speed cameras being used in Texas." - RW

Automated enforcement - speed
Statewide or only specified locations? -
Violations -
Citations issued to whom? -
Who is liable? -
What image is taken? -
Traditional enforcement penalty -
Auto enforcement penalties/record -

Maryland (where Dale lives)

Automated enforcement - red light
Statewide or only specified locations? - statewide
Violations - red light
Citations issued to whom? - registered owner
Who is liable? - owner
What image is taken? - 2 or more images of rear of vehicle and tag in any
medium
Traditional enforcement penalty - $500 maximum fine/2 points
Auto enforcement penalties/record - $100 maximum civil penalty; no points
or record; not a moving violation; may not be used by insurers

Automated enforcement - speed
Statewide or only specified locations? - Montgomery County school zones
and residential districts, Prince George's County school zones (effective
06/01/10), statewide in school zones by local ordinance and work zones
Violations - speed
Citations issued to whom? - registered owner
Who is liable? - owner
What image is taken? - 2 or more images of rear of vehicle and tag in any
medium
Traditional enforcement penalty maximum fine $500 in residential district,
$1,000 in school zone; points depend on speed
Auto enforcement penalties/record $40 maximum fine; no points

 RB> Oh, well... credibility has to be earned, and I can't give it to you
 RB> even as a Christmas present. Still...

That's ok, Bobby, you're no more credible than because you make false
claims (lies) and offer them as facts.

When you can 'prove' (like I did above) that there are speed cameras in
use by more than your word, then you might earn an itsie bitsie piece of
crediible, but not until then.

                R\%/itt

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