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Text 15526, 98 rader
Skriven 2011-03-20 11:06:49 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Leeching...
===================
Hello Robert,

On Friday March 18 2011 18:17, you wrote to me:

 RB>>> Because it's closer and it's easier to get into the system.

 MV>> Right. So there goes your "leeching" theory.

 RB> You wish. At least Mexicans aren't muslims, but mostly catholics.

Ah, there it is. This has nothing to do with high taxes encouraging leeching,
it is about Muslims vs other religeons.

 RB> Michiel, there _is_ a problem and most people here realize that, even
 RB> if they have no patent answers how to solve it.

Sure, there is a problem. But it is by far not as big as extremists like Geert
Wilders will have us believe. Yes, it is a problem. So is doggy doo.

 MV>> How many burkas have you seen in the streets of datteln?

 RB> I wasn't aware that we were merely talking about Datteln.

In all these years I have seen one - read ONE - women in a Burka in Europe. It
was in Amsterdam. So big a problem can that be?

 MV>> Our previous queen Juliana oiften wore a headscarve.

 RB> As did my mother, when it was windy or rained. But what does that have
 RB> to do with the subject?

You tell me. It was you who mentioned head scarves first.

 RB> And for that matter, what European woman wears a scarf nowadays? Even
 RB> men, who used to wear hats all the time, only rarely wear them
 RB> nowadays.

I always wear a hat in winter.

 RB> By the way, what you _will_ see in Datteln are muslim women with
 RB> scarves and long black coats that hide even their ankles even in
 RB> midsummer.

I see them occasianally n Driebergen too. It does not bother me.

 RB>  The amazing thing is that these are usually younger women
 RB> (judging by their faces, which at least they don't hide). I try to
 RB> ignore them, but as an American/German have to laugh at the thought
 RB> that every man alive has only sex on the brain and every woman alive
 RB> only wants to throw herself at the nearest human with a penis - but
 RB> that's what many muslims (the ones with such garb) apparently believe.

Go to a video store - if there still is one in Datteln - grab a couple of
american movies and after viewing them, one may just get the same imporession
about white caucasians.

 RB>>> I can still remember the train bombings by the southern Moluccans
 RB>>> in the Netherlands.

 MV>> And now, with the next generation that problem has solved itself.

 RB> I'm sure that's a big comfort to the people killed in the train
 RB> bombings and their relatives.

Train bombings? I think you are mixing things up. There were two train jackings
and one school jacking in relation with the Molukkans. How many people were
killed in those incident? I am too lazy to look it up, but I am sure it was
less than ten. Ten people killed 35 years ago. To bad people died, but it pales
in comparison to what is happening in Japan today and saying it is indication
of a major problem today is paranoid.

 MV>> And the brother in Los Angeles does not have a satellite TV that
 MV>> tells him the leeching is so much better in Europe?

 RB> So get there. Next question: how? You can't cross the Atlantic in a
 RB> truck. And even if you could, how could you be sure the conditions in
 RB> the EU were SO much better as to justify the risk and cost? It's hard
 RB> enough, and expensive enough, to get from Africa to Europe. You're
 RB> grasping at straws.

You are the one grasping at straws to defend your "high taxes encourage
leeching and leeching encourages immigration" theory. Every time I come up with
a counter example, you come up with a rule that confirms my theory that says
they do noyt come to the countries where the leching is bestm but that they go
to the nearest country where they expect better living conditions.

 RB> *) I recently read that the chastity belts of the middle ages were not
 RB> imposed on the women, but were intended to prevent sexual attack
 RB> (rape), and that the women generally had a key to open them.

That would not be an effective defence against rape. If the women had the key,
the rapist would take it from her by force.


Cheers, Michiel

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