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Text 16274, 82 rader
Skriven 2011-04-03 15:28:50 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 16233 av David Drummond (3:640/384)
Ärende: Names will never hurt me...
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David Drummond wrote to Ross Cassell on Sunday April 03 2011 at 09:52:

DD> Have you ever been outside your home state, the USA?

David, writing such drivel to Ross is a bit silly. Haven't you followed the
echo for more than a couple of months? Ross was overseas most of his life and
probably knows a damn signt more of the world than you do.

RC>> Foreign powers occupied West Berlin and West Germany, yet West Berlin
RC>> and West Germany had its own Government, how was that

DD> And there is no US influence in the running of that country - no US
DD> military in situ?

There is Ramstein air base near Frankfurt/Main, but that is an American
facility that has no relevance to Germany except for the money the soldiers
spend in Frankfurt and vicinity. Political influence: zero. Those times are
long past and I'm surprised you don't know that.

DD> That's because you have been brainwashed by a slefish "me" society
DD> that doesn't appear to give a fuck about anyone else. The Europeans
DD> and in particular the Australians and more for a fair go for everyone.

Sure, like Rupert Murdoch ;-)

F**k all, David, don't try to act like everyone outside the USA is holy and
only interested in social welfare, whereas everyone in the USA is just out for
a fast buck. You're generalizing too much: we're all human beings, we all have
our desires and needs, and if need be, we're all willing to use whatever it
takes to satisfy those wants and desires. That may not please you, but it's the
plain truth.

RC>> I can criticize Sweden all that I want, but my view of it is from the
RC>> outside looking in and that is not the best vantage point.

DD> Then go there. They (Bjorn/Ward) have visited USA.

Ward has. Up to now I've seen nothing from Bjorn. And as for "visiting",
frankly, you have no idea what goes on in a country from a visit. If you don't
want to believe that, then don't. But I know from sometimes bitter experience
that every word is the truth.

RC>> Of all of you, Robert Bashe has the most experience, though dated,
RC>> then Ward, who might have the best grasp over you and the rest of his
RC>> consortium.

DD> Bullshit, Bob is a senile old bugger who still kowtows to the Texan
DD> brainwashing he recived in his youth.

You're imitating Bjorn again. You could pick a better mentor.

RC>> Being a tourista doesnt enable you with the experiences that a
RC>> citizen of any given country possesses..

DD> It beats living in USA and only witness to cencored media.

You're crazy. You see what you want to see in the States. You like soaps, you
see soaps, you like international news, you see international news. Have you
forgotten there are satellite systems in the USA, too?

RC>> As well traveled as Ward is over here, he does not possess the
RC>> citizenship thing, despite knowing his way around, without the
RC>> citizenship thing, he has not the worries and concerns that a citizen
RC>> would have.

DD> What a load of shit! I am not a citizen of this country and I have
DD> just the same worrries as any AUstralian.

Without the inner attitudes an Australian has, the "brainwashing". You'll never
have those, regardless of how long you live there. Deceive yourself about that
as long as you can - I tried in Germany - but you stay a part of where you were
born and bred for your entire life, whether you want to or not.

DD> Shake off your flag worshiping brainwashing - become a free thinker.

Like you? No thanks. You're too convinced of your own infallibility for my
taste.

Cheers, Bob

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