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Text 2115, 72 rader
Skriven 2009-12-30 15:01:28 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
   Kommentar till text 1932 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: The Evil That Men Do  2/
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>>> Continued from previous message

>LL>It is said that histories are written by the victors.  But histories
>LL>are also written by those who lost the war.  What are the real
>LL>historical facts?  All histories are interpretations of history.
>LL>And every historian distorts history to his/her own liking or way
>LL>of presentation.

RW>The victors can distort to their hearts content, but those who lived it
RW>tell it like they saw it.

Just because the victors say something is true does not make it so.
Just because you and others choose to ignore what those who lived it
tell does not mean those who lived it were telling lies.

RW>Some say that the Germans were the aggressor when they invaded
RW>Poland.

Mostly Jews and Communists.

RW>Others, like Dossche claim that the Brits and the Americans were
RW>the aggressor, as they bombed Germany all to hell.

Most freedom-loving peoples around the world agree with that POV.

RW>Seems to me that if you start something and you start it with someone who
RW>isn't inclined to lay back and take it, you should be ready for the
RW>consequences. i.e. if your aggression gets you a black eye and a bloody
RW>nose and a good ass kickin', perhaps you picked on the wrong person.

That may have been what the USA, Britain, and Russia deserved.
Unfortunately for Hitler, the wrong side won.

>LL>To Yankees and those who supported the North (victors in the War for
>LL>Southern Independence), the period just after the War (Southerners
>LL>never refer to the War as the "Civil War") was one of
>LL>"reconstruction" - in which the North helped the South to rebuild.

RW>You mean the northern carpet baggers weren't there to steal everything
RW>in site?

General Sherman was content to burn everything right straight to hell.

>LL>To Southerners and those who supported the South (losers in the War),
>LL>that same period was one of military occupation - in which Yankees
>LL>raped, pillaged, and stole everything Southerners had, leaving the
>LL>region destitute and poor. Almost all histories of the War have been
>LL>written from a Northern POV.  Only recently have historians begun to
>LL>pay more attention to histories of the War as told from a Southern
>LL>POV.  So what are the historical facts?  The *real* historical facts,
>LL>rather than propaganda as told by Yankees?

RW>My GGGrandfather fought in that war, as did his brother. Both fought for
RW>opposing sides. However, most people thought the war was about freeing the
RW>nigger slaves, when it was really about yankee political aggression
RW>towards the southern industrys. Which was the downside of the southern
RW>effort because they didn't have the industry that the north had. Even with
RW>European help (see Rothchild - a European Jewish banker), they lost due to
RW>the ability of the yankee navy to blockade European shipping. Frankly, as
RW>an engineer, I don't see how the south could have hoped to compete with
RW>the north while using equipment of inferior design.

Unfortunately for President Jefferson, General Lee, and Southerners
everywhere, the wrong side won.

--Lee


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