Text 24339, 121 rader
Skriven 2012-01-05 05:40:03 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 24325 av Alexey Vissarionov (2:5020/545)
Ärende: Editors history
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05 Jan 12 13:19, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Roy Witt:

 AV>>> Look at http://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/?address=2:2/2 tracking:
 AV>>>  9 Sep 1988, nodelist.253:
 AV>>> Node removed from the nodelist
 RW>> Why'd you remove the 1:1/1 listings? They were proof that there were
 RW>> 1:1/1 Fidonews Editors listed for a very long time...in spite of the
 RW>> Felten's statement that there NEVER were any Editors listed as
 RW>> 1:1/1?

 AV> I didn't remove anything - that was performed by Z1C.

You should learn how to read what is posted before you go off on a
tangent and assume things that aren't true.

 AV> The nodehist service just keeps a database of nodelists and performs
 AV> some analysis, but not changes.

So, you didn't actually go through any nodelists and read what is there,
you depended on software, apparently bad software, to do that for you.

 RW>>>> You were fired on or about the following date by a vote of the
 RW>>>> people (sysops)...
 AV>>> Please publish MSGIDs and kludges of messages containing those
 AV>>> people votes, otherwise you are a liar.
 RW>> I don't archive the echo in which the vote took place...

 AV> What a silly lie...

There are only 25 messages in that area right now. The list of people who
are active there, dating from Dec 27 to Jan 4th - are;

Witt, Roy                                           1:387/22
Kracht, Janis                                       1:261/38
Delahaye, Joe                                      1:249/303
JR, Robert E Starr                                 1:340/400
Nelson, Roger                                       1:3828/7
Dossche, Ward                                      2:292/854
lewis, mark                                        1:3634/12

Which doesn't represent everyone who has written there last year or even
since the end of July when the Felten's fate was decided...

Meanwhile, I just archived this echo with over 10,000 messages in it from
Jan 1, 2011 to the end of the day of Dec 31, 2011...

 RW>> if you wish proof, all you have to do is find an archive of the echo
 RW>> in which the vote took place. As Michiel van der Vlist would say; it
 RW>> is not my place to do your work for you.

 AV> "Actori incumbit onus probandi": as _you_ claim the voting took
 AV> place, that's _your_ task to prove that.

There you go again. Onus probandi actori incumbit.

 AV>>> Also, your software seems to cut significant parts of messages -
 AV>>> you should upgrade or change it.
 RW>> My software works just fine...try fixing you POS linux box...

 AV> It cuts the line ends. That's not really a problem - it just shows
 AV> that your hands are growing from your arse.

Or your arse has taken over your head and you're now spewing what everyone
wishes to avoid; more russkie bullshit.

 AV>>> Now, I want to see the message from Bjorn Felten (with all kludges
 AV>>> which I'll thoroughly investigate) where he resigns from the
 AV>>> Fidonews Editor position and passes the duty to someone else.
 RW>> Find it yourself...I'm not your researcher.

 AV> Actori incumbit onus probandi.

Onus probandi actori incumbit.

 BF>>>>> Hint: The Fidonews Editor appoints the next Fidonews Editor, who
 BF>>>>> appoints the next Fidonews Editor, and so on. All you have to do
 BF>>>>> is backtrack from there. That's what provenance is all about.
 RW>>>> Hint: when it becomes clear to Fidonet Sysops that the Fidonews
 RW>>>> Editor has made a mockery of the publication and the FIDONEWS echo
 RW>>>> by his very words and bad behavior, it behooves them to take
 RW>>>> action to restore it to their satisfaction. You are no longer the
 RW>>>> Fidonews Editor by a vote of 300:2 with 2 abstentions...
 AV>>> So, the opinions of
 AV>>> gremlin@hren:~ > echo `cat ~/fido/etc/nodelist.ndl | egrep
 AV>>> '^(|Hub|Pvt),' | wc -l` - '300+2+2' | bc
 AV>>> 2790
 RW>> Fix your software so that it is readable in English...that's all
 RW>> garbage to me.

 AV> If the chamber pot located on your shoulders has overflowed while
 AV> trying to understand trivial things,

The one you're drinking from?

 AV>  you'd better break it by hitting a concrete wall - that will
 AV> decrease the number of dumb people on our planet.

Why would I want to leave you as the only dumbass on the planet?

 AV>>> sysops were not queried at all? Well, now I understand how does
 AV>>> your vaunted "dyermocracy" work, and how do you actually use it...
 RW>> What is a dyermocracy, your russky version of democracy?

 AV> The dyermocracy is a result of making democracy by fools,

Ahhhh, like the USSR and now the so-called Republic of Czars...

 AV>  who are
 AV> unable to predict two next steps... Ah, yes - the word "dyermocracy"
 AV> is really derived from Russian word "¤¥à쬮".

In other words, it's a russkie dementia problem...


                R\%/itt


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