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Skriven 2012-02-25 00:03:06 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt
Ärende: Re: Fidonews v29, n8 mes
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 -=> On 02-24-12  07:20,  Roy Witt <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Fidonews v29, n8 mes <=-

 DS> AND you might want to go back and look at what I said and to whom I
 DS> said it.  I was talking to Björn who was moaning about how Janis
 DS> messed up

 RW> Bjorn was/is, no doubt, pulling your leg.

Björn was, as usual, taking an opportunity to denigrate anyone in Z1
and especially on the NAB -- even if he was, as usual, blowing smoke.

 DS> and so he did not get all of the issue from Nick.

 RW> I wouldn't believe your source for that, even if you paid me.
 
I wouldn't pay you for anything.  My source for saying that Björn did
not get the messages is by looking at messages on his BBS.

 DS>  If you check that path line you will see that it is: 261/1406 ->
 DS> 261/38 -> 320/119 -> 203/0.

 RW> Which is irrelevant, as the only one who has complained about not

Pay attention -- it is the only thing relevant to what I have been
talking about.  I have not been talking about Nick.  Let me recap for
you in simple steps so that you might be able to understand them:

1. messages were missed by some systems.

2. Janis proposed a probable cause -- namely that some systems trapped
them as dupes because of having over zealous dupe detection settings.

3. Björn ridiculed her and claimed that it was all her fault.

4. I confirmed that such settings exist (E.g. SQUISH has such a setting
if one does not comment it out).

5. I looked at Björn's BBS and saw that *HE* was in fact missing those
same messages -- ergo he, or one of his links, had killed them.

6. His link for FIDONEWS confirmed that the messages left his BBS on
their way to Björn.

Any other discussion you have been having with your hand another matter.

 RW> Wrong, as Michiel, who is directly connected to Bjorn has stated that
 RW> he's seen all of Nick's messages.
 
Michiel has various links to FIDONEWS.  He has not yet said to my
knowledge where he got the messages.

 DS> It was not Janis that did it -- it was Björn.

 RW> Nope. Janis received Nick's messages and sent them through the NAB to
 RW> Seaborn. Who has stated that after further review he hadn't received
 RW> all 12 of them either.

Again -- another path from the one I was talking about.  If Seaborn did
not receive them, he'd have to look in his logs or dupe message area to
find out why.
 
 RW> And yet uplinks and downlinks either side of Bjorn have seen
 RW> them...odd that you would consider a dupe check deleted them at his
 RW> systme, yet those messages made it to his downlinks!

I conclude that Björn's system deleted them because they are not present
on his system and yet it has been confirmed that they were sent to his
system.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) comcast (dot) net
                              (1:261/1466)




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