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Skriven 2010-01-27 23:43:00 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Michiel Van Der Vlist
Ärende: Re: Perception
======================
 -=> On 01-27-10  10:45,  Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Perception <=-

 DS> If you want to stick to the wrong definitions and concepts even after
 DS> being informed of the truth,

 MVDV> I used the term *before* somebody told me that what we call 
 MVDV> government is not the same what you call government.

Perhaps you should learn to look up your terms in a dictionary.
 
 DS> then don't be surprised when people don't understand you and/or call
 DS> you out about your errors.  So Be It.

 MVDV> Life would be a lot easier if guys like you would put some 
 MVDV> more effort in trying to understand what I want to say 
 MVDV> instead of constantly pinning me down on launguage issues.

We cannot understand what you want to say when you use terms
incorrectly.

 MVDV> Over here the government is what you seem to call the 
 MVDV> executive branch. IOW, the White House. Over here 
 MVDV> parliament is not part of the government. And neither are 
 MVDV> the courts and the judges and what goes with it.

If Parliament, courts and judges are not part of the government -- then
what are they a part of?  The first makes the laws, the second passes
judgement on on their application.  Those two things are a central tenet
of the definition of what a government is and does.

 MVDV> These kind of misunderstandings are unavoidable when 
 MVDV> crossing language and cultural barriers. Playing a deaf ear 
 MVDV> to that and bluntly insisting that your definition is right 
 MVDV> and mine is wrong, does not help communication.

As Robert said, then why do you do just that.  I suppose that the answer
is like the scorpion said to the frog as he stung him and they both
drowned, "It is in my nature."

It does not help communication when you refuse to check the definition,
but insist on continuing to use it wrongly.

 MVDV> I stand by my original claim but I will rephrase it. The 
 MVDV> race for the White House is a winner takes all system.

Of the Presidency, full stop.  There are some government jobs that the
President has partial control over.  Many more that he does not.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) comcast (dot) net
                              (1:261/1466)



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