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Text 4610, 72 rader
Skriven 2010-02-05 21:31:21 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: Age
===========
Hello Ross,

On Friday February 05 2010 11:44, you wrote to me:

 RC>>> What if a person willing and able to work past 65, is that so
 RC>>> wrong?

 MV>> No. But I know no one in person here who wants that.

 RC> I encounter plenty of retiress whom have taken on some sort of part
 RC> time job, for no other reason that they were bored and just wanted
 RC> some extra play money. I see some of them come in wanting to buy
 RC> computers.

Different country, different culture.

 MV>> Who would want a lousy job as a waitress or cashier in a super market
 MV>> if one does not need the money?

 RC> There is an assumption on your part that a retirement income is
 RC> sufficient for some.

No assumption, fact.  The system here assures that no one needs to work for
money beyond the age of 65.

 RC> Those retirees I have met, seem to enjoy taking on more menial jobs,
 RC> as they like dealing with the public and dont have the stresses and
 RC> responsibilities their prior jobs held.

Different country, different culture.

 RC> On the other hand, some take any job because they have to for
 RC> economical reasons or poor money management in the past.

See above.

 MV>> Plus as I already explained an employer would have difficulty
 MV>> with insurance. Here an employer is legally responsible for
 MV>> damages made by his employees while on the job. So employers
 MV>> insure themselves. But if they can not get insurance...

 RC> If you are talking about getting injured on the job, yes, we have that
 RC> here, its called workmans compensation, most employers pay into a
 RC> insurance fund maintained by the state.

No, injuries of the employee on the job are taken care of by the health care. I
am talking about damages to others. Such as an employee dropping a heavy parcel
on a customer in a shop. Or an employee crashing into a fence while on a trip
for the company.

 RC> In 1996 while working for a Auto parts retailer, I was helping out at
 RC> another store, they had a backroom added onto the building and I was
 RC> putting up the shelving. A bundle of shelving uprights was propped up
 RC> against a wall and while jostling with another, I disturbed this
 RC> bundle and it fell down on me. A inch or two more and I would have
 RC> been killed, but as it was, I suffered severe scratches on my scalp
 RC> and a huge gash on my forehead that peeled a 3 inch wide flap of skin
 RC> away. My emergency room treatment was paid for, I underwent 10
 RC> straight days of hyberbaric oxygen chamber treatment, which they did
 RC> to assist in healing the flap of skin that was sewn back down, mostly
 RC> successful, but the outer 1/4 inch of the flap did die. I could have
 RC> opted for plastic surgury to remove most of the scar tissue, but I
 RC> opted out, I then received a settlement offer which I used to buy a
 RC> car.. :) My lost wages were also covered.

You were lucky. Accidents happen, but that was not what I meant.


Cheers, Michiel

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