Text 4691, 48 rader
Skriven 2010-02-06 19:06:28 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 4447 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Free speech
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04 Feb 10 02:05, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Robert Bashe:

 RB>> Now, _that's_ an everyday example of "free speech" in Germany. I
 RB>> doubt that there are no parallels where you live - but I also doubt
 RB>> that that kind of thing would get you in trouble in the States,
 RB>> where you can generally say anything you want as long as it's true
 RB>> (any sometimes even if it's not).

 MvdV> Meaning it will not get you into trouble with te law.

Somebody in German wants to publish (release copies) of Hitler's Mein
Kampf (sp)...if free speech is the same there as it is here, why do they
need government permission to do so?

That book is freely available here.

 MvdV> But that is just he lagal angle. In practice there is more to it
 MvdV> than just the legal angle. In practise a "whistler blower" will
 MvdV> almost certainly lose his job. Or worse.

Not in America...A 'whistle blower' here is protected by laws against
that.

[American free speech]

 RB>> The limitations on free speech there are very wide indeed compared
 RB>> to Europe.

 MvdV> Only when restriced to the pure legal angle. The practical
 MvdV> limitations ara not allthat different I imagine.

According to Ward Dossche it is illegal to post things like swasticas,
images of Adloph Hitler and sieg heils in Z2 Fidonet, yet he was turned
away when he tried to make a legal point of it in Z1. Why? Because free
speech here is really free speech...

 MvdV> Would you walk up to a group of bikers and call them faggots to
 MvdV> their face?

Depends on how many of them there were. I'd do it if there were only
six or seven of them. After that, I'd have to reload and I don't think I
could do that fast enough for eight or ten. OTH, if I had two guns, hmmm.

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