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Skriven 2009-10-24 06:38:11 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
    Kommentar till text 703 av John Guillory (1:396/60.0)
Ärende: Australian First in Citizen Snooping
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John Guillory -> David Drummond wrote:
 DD>> What can "the government" do with my fingerprints? They
 DD>> may be able to identify that I touched something. As
 DD>> long as I don't get around touching things I shouldn't what can
 JG> they do?

 JG>      There you have it!  Keep your hands off the President's wife and
 JG>      you should be safe.... May want to keep your hands off the president,
 JG>      he might not like you rubbing up on him... :-)

We don't have a president in Australia. However, like their president, I doubt
that I'm going to get within touching distance of Australia's political leader.

 DD>> If the government want to take money from my bank
 DD>> account they can already do that - without a copy of my
 DD>> fingerprints.

 JG>      No, they call that Taxes / IRS

They don't take it from my bank account, they actually put it in there.

 DD>> So far the government haven't removed money from my
 DD>> account - although they do tend to make a deposit to it
 DD>> each year at tax return time.

 JG>      My deposit's getting smaller and smaller!

That's you spending it.

 RB>> Dictators throughout history would have leaped with joy
 RB>> at such an opportunity. "Selection" of specific groups or people with
 RB>> specific traits for "special treatment" will be as
 RB>> simple of pushing a button.

 JG>      Just curious, but do you carry your passport around with you when
 JG>      shopping?

Only when in other countries. I leave it in the cupboard here. However, when
driving I am supposed to carry my driver's licence. Currently that is fairly
low tech, some written words and a photo. Soon we are supposed to be getting
"smart-chipped" licences.

 JG>  You know that RFID is just the kind of stuff Walmart
 JG> uses....
 JG>      Having that in your pocket allows them to track every item you pick
up
 JG>      (interested in) and match it up to you, follow you to other stores
 JG> they
 JG>       have connections with and then determine if you bought something
else
 JG>       where because it was cheaper, better, etc. Or where you plnning to
 JG>       return to buy the item.... Granted, in cases like that i'd have to
 JG>       have fun with them and pick up every item on every shelf and help
 JG> them
 JG>       with their inventory..... I walk out of the store and they tally
 JG> up how much I picked up and they know exactly how many items they
 JG> presently have in the store... :-)

They do that when I check out the goods anyway. The checkout is computerised
(barcode scanning and all that) and when I pay by plastic they know who I am.

 DD>> Australians obviously don't see any problem with it -
 DD>> maybe they vote in more trustworthy politicians....

 JG>      Nah, most likely they just don't know better, and believe
 JG>      anything....

More likely they don't care. Australians aren't anywhere near as paranoid as
the average USAmerican seems to be.

I'm sure that Aussies are more sceptical about what they're fed too -
Superstitious belief seems to have a greater hold in USA (it's even printed on
their currency).

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regards

David

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