Text 10033, 81 rader
Skriven 2013-08-26 20:21:16 av Ulrich Schroeter (2:244/1120)
  Kommentar till text 10028 av Joe Delahaye (36729.fidonews)
Ärende: Internet access - Fidonet Policy thoughts ....
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Hi Joe,

Monday August 26 2013 11:02, you wrote to mark lewis:

 JD>   Re: Internet access
 JD>   By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Sun Aug 25 2013 14:29:33
 JD> ...
 >> some months later to carry message area traffic and became known as
 >> echomail... echomail has always revolved around user's traffic...
 JD> Of course, but to this day, nowhere does it state that  you have to
 JD> run a BBS. A mailer will suffice.  No BBS, no users.  No users, means
 JD> no echomail eminating from your system, other then what you the
 JD> operator write.

p4.07 intro

This document establishes the policy for sysops who are members of the
FidoNet organization of electronic bulletin board systems.

conclusion: every node listed in nodelist is a sysop with a running
bulletin board system ... aka BBS   =:D

The first step in obtaining a current nodelist is to locate a FidoNet
bulletin board.

A coordinator is encouraged to operate a public bulletin board system which
is freely available for the purpose of distributing Policy, FidoNews, and
Nodelists to potential new sysops.  Dissemination of this information to
persons who are potential FidoNet sysops is important to the growth of
FidoNet, and coordinators should encourage development of new systems.

Policy, FidoNews, and the nodelist are the glue that holds us together.
Without them, we would cease to be a community, and become just another
random collection of bulletin boards.

-

All above sections speaks about "Bulletin Board Systems", not in
Systems (Nodes), running a mailer

In Ward's mail writing, that running a BBS on a POTS line makes
no sense nowadays ... but there is an increase of running Telnet BBS systems
servicing Fido-over-IP, so which makes sense ..

What I'll try to focus on is, that P4.07 now is a 24 years old policy
The "ideas" to group "Bulletin Board Systems" together to be listed
as Fidonet members was based by 1989's technique. Now the world moved
forward, Fidonet still exist ... but the requirements still did change

We have to switch between POTS, ISDN, IP, maybe more comes in the future?!?
We have to deal with probably no POTS BBS system remaining, but we have a
couple of Telnet BBS systems. How a POTS user can connect into a Telnet BBS
system ?!?  (the question still makes no sense ... we probably have lesser
POTS systems running than the nodelist tells. My assumption is, that 90%
of all fidonet traffic is handled via FoIP

An update of Policy 4.07 still hasn't picked up by anyone so its an undone
task. The open question, if its still necessary
or can we live with this 24 years, imperfect policy these days ?

A rethinking about CMH is necessary, as it doesn't apply to the majority
of all systems (times of multilines, FoIP with multitasking, splitting services
BinkP / Telnet) indicates that this paragraph requires an update.

To implement a mechanism, that allows several different physical layers to
communicate via an elevator concept

But these are not the only topics ...

The days are counted, until my POTS line dies by ISP restictions
same for ISDN ... so I'm no longer policy conform running a POTS line ?!? ?-)



 JD> -$- SBBSecho 2.20-Win32
 JD>  $ Origin: The Lions Den BBS, Trenton, On, CDN (1:249/303)

regards, uli   ;-)

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