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Text 10542, 116 rader
Skriven 2013-09-30 11:46:55 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
  Kommentar till text 10507 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Re: Putin Blinks
========================
Hi, Roy Witt!
I read your message from  27.09.2013 10:24
about Putin Blinks.

  ak>> It was exactly the testing had shown the destructiveness of the A-
  ak>> bomb.
  RW> It raised some dust, blew a strong wind and had a plume of smoke 12
  RW> miles high. Nothing more.

    The power of that testing had been exactly known in kilotons of TNT. 
IMHO, it was easy to guess what can happen with a dense populated city, 
with wooden buildings, if you dropped on in its center, simultaneously, 
20 TNT bombs 3000 pounds each. Besides, the knock wave was not the only 
factor of killing people. The bomb produces a tremendous temperature 
that burns away all that can be burned.

  ak>> The first bombing on Hiroshima was another confirmation, before
  ak>> dropping the second bomb.

  RW> The 1st bomb (which was the 2nd bomb) on Hiroshima was another test
  RW> of a 'different' type of atom bomb. There were two types in
  RW> exisitance at the time.

    Yeah, it was a very interesting scientific question, after burning 
150 thousand people with the first bomb! Would a plutonium bomb kill 
more people or less than a uranium one? In concentration camps, Hitler's 
doctors also had answered many interesting questions practicing on live 
people.

  ak>> So, your argument is poor.
  RW> Not at all. President Truman wrote in his diary that he had ordered
  RW> the bomb dropped on a "purely military" target, so that "military
  RW> objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women
  RW> and children."

    Lie doesn't help in this case. If the bombs, for instance in 
Hiroshima, had been dropped on ships in the sea port area it could have 
some sense, but in reality the bomb had been dropped in the city's 
center, on the residential area.

    The Hiroshima epicenter mark:
http://mestagugla.ru/wp-content/uploads/japan_hirosima_epicenter2.jpg
    google maps:
http://maps.google.ru/?ll=34.394727,132.454742&spn=0.001795,0.002401&t=k&z=19

  RW> The official directive to bomb Japan didn't include the above and
  RW> it came from the Secretary of War, not the President.

  RW> " The foregoing directive is issued to you by direction and with
  RW> the approval of the Secretary of War and of the Chief of Staff,
  RW> USA. It is desired that you personally deliver one copy of this
  RW> directive to General MacArthur and one copy to Admiral Nimitz for
  RW> their information. (Sgd) THOS. T. HANDY THOS. T. HANDY General, G.
  RW> S. C. Acting Chief of Staff"


    It's highly improbable, taking into account that an A-bomb was not 
even on the balance of the military, as it had just been made. Actually, 
you've said that a top secret weapon could used without high approval of 
Commander-in-Chief (i.e. President of the US).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_military_rank
-----------
    The United States Constitution names the President of the United 
States the Commander-in-Chief of the U. S. armed forces.
-----------

  ak>> In 1938 it was discovered that an atom of uranium divides when
  ak>> stricken by a neutron. In 1939 Curie told all the world (like an
  ak>> idiot) that every fusion produces many neutrons. Since then, every
  ak>> dog (from the world of science :)) knew that these two facts could
  ak>> be used for making a very powerful bomb.

  RW> Theory is nice.

    It is simple, indeed. First step is an atomic fusion reactor -- to 
get acquainted with uranium and its fusion process. You make a stockpile 
of uranium 235. The atoms divide and produce neutrons, that again divide 
atoms. The more uranium the quicker the chain reactions is. The most 
difficult process, IMHO, is getting U235 fuel itself -- to separate U235 
from U238. The atomic fusion reactor has decelerator rods to slow down 
the fusion reaction and to prevent the reactor from blowing up. Second, 
you repeat all this without decelerator rods. Nowadays the theory is 
well known, and the first stage can be even skipped.

<skipped>
  ak>> Besides, I still don't know a single the USSR's plan to attack the
  ak>> US first with A-boms.

  RW> Of course you don't. You were/aren't privy to such information.

    After the dissolving of the USSR and Communist Party all unpleasant 
top secrets have become known. Even those ones that are really painful, 
like, for instance, killing of Polish officers captured in 1940. So, if 
the USSR had planned a first strike attack on the US it would have been 
known now.

  RW> Putin might know, since he was a KGB agent for so many years during
  RW> the cold war. Meanwhile, America put missles in silos and pointed
  RW> them at the USSR because there were missles in silos there, pointed
  RW> at the USA... not to mention the years of B-52s flying the northern
  RW> hemisphere with orders to drop Abombs on the USSR, should they
  RW> launch their missles. Meanwhile, the USSR built a huge radar system
  RW> that was so RF dirty, it interupted communications all over the
  RW> world like a woodpecker bird pecking on the atmosphere.

    There was time when the USSR had no atomic weapon, but it was on the 
verge of its creating. Exactly then the US did plan atomic bombardments 
of the USSR. The US was afraid that the USSR could obtain nuclear 
weapon, too.

Bye, Roy!
Alexander Koryagin
fido7.fidonews 2013
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