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Skriven 2013-10-18 08:51:38 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
  Kommentar till text 10771 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Re: Alexander Blinks                    Was: Putin Blinks
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Hi, Roy Witt!
I read your message from 16.10.2013 17:30

  RW>>> subject to and run under military law. All detainees are entitled
  RW>>> to the minimal protections listed under Common Article 3 of the
  RW>>> Geneva Conventions. Your point is?
  ak>> If Putin hears you it will be the end of the world in Russia.
  RW> That would be a good idea, in any case.

Only don't chock with your saliva when dreaming. ;=)

  RW> Define 'normal'...

Well, the normal are those who understand that the US' adventure in 
Afghanistan was the adventure of idiots, catching the cat in the empty 
dark room. And still catching it despite the light has been turned on. ;)

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  ak>> You can twaddle on the absence of freedom in Russia, but people
  ak>> will call you hypocrites while Guantanamo exists.

  RW> There is plenty of freedom in America, for citizens, legal
  RW> immigrants and all visiters from around the world.

  RW> The Geneva Conventions apply in wars between two or more sovereign
  RW> states. Article 5 of the Third Geneva Convention states that the
  RW> status of a detainee may be determined by a "competent tribunal".
  RW> Until such time, he must be treated as a prisoner of war. After a
  RW> "competent tribunal" has determined that an individual detainee is
  RW> an unlawful combatant, the "detaining power" may choose to accord
  RW> the detained unlawful combatant the rights and privileges of a
  RW> prisoner of war as described in the Third Geneva Convention, but is
  RW> not required to do so. An unlawful combatant who is not a national
  RW> of a neutral State, and who is not a national of a co-belligerent
  RW> State, retains rights and privileges under the Fourth Geneva
  RW> Convention so that he must be "treated with humanity and, in case
  RW> of trial, shall not be deprived of the rights of fair and regular
  RW> trial"

  RW> Thus, Gitmo is a POW camp and the detainees held there are treated
  RW> as POWs. All 47 of them.

A lie even in places that can be easily checked:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/29/3593270/us-sends-two-algerians-prisoners.html----

the prison (in August 2013) held 164 detainees,
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Almost all the captured Taliban have been guilty in only one way -- they 
defended their own country, from the US led invasion. Among the captured 
there were even 13 years old boys. They didn't help Bin-Laden -- who at 
first hid in mountains and in 2001 moved to a cozy sweet home in 
Pakistan, the country that helped Bin Laden much more than Afghanistan.

Bye, Roy!
Alexander Koryagin
fido7.fidonews 2013
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