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Text 12235, 167 rader
Skriven 2014-01-30 10:46:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av JANIS KRACHT
Ärende: Re: Wendy Davis
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On 01-27-14, JANIS KRACHT said to WARD DOSSCHE:


JK>Hi Ward,


>Amazing, I think American Democrats are rightist with Republicans even more
to > the right.


JK>Sad but true for those in Gov't these days.  This fellow has no idea as
JK>you say.


> You probably have no clue what "leftist" means.


JK>That is very apparent.


You and Dossche were speaking of me here. The more I thought about it the more
I feel obligated to respond.


The only thing `apparent' to you is your own blind notion that abortion on
demand is A-OK. Funny how a lot of the downside of abortion on demand is
glossed over and black-holed by media.


Did you follow the Kermit Gosnell trial? See some of the photos ofthe dead
babies? Hear about some of the more gruesome details of his `clinic'?


My question would be; how many more horror-filled abortion `clinics' are there
out there we haven't heard of yet?


Whether you are a leftist democrat, or a conservative-minded independent, the
verbal description of what went on in Gosnell's `clinic' alone, makes one
shudder with horror!


This man had a medical license. But then, of course, so did Dr. Josef Mengele,
didn't he?


You implied that I was trying to make some sort of decision as to `whats best
for someone else'. And went on to deplore what you refered to as `my warped
perceptions'; refering of course to what you feel are `my' perceptions on the
abortion issue.


You want to speak of `warped perceptions'? How warped do you think someone's
perceptions are who can demand a procedure that, no matter what title you put
on it, or how you refer to the `aborted' material, we all know causes the
ending of a human life?


Think about this:


Prior to WWII, it is said that Stalin's policies of `centralization' caused
the starvation of 30 or more million people! The whole world was shocked!


During WWII, the Nazi `relocation' policies, and their efforts to make Western
Europe `Juden Frei' took the lives of over six million Jews. And  that was
just the Jews. The deaths in Europe alone, as a result of WWII and the Nazi
death camps, was probably over 25 million people.


At the end of WWII, they used to have a segment of time in movie theatres in
America devoted to just news, both national and international.


One was called `Today's News Today', and another one was called `News of The
World'.


In one of them after the war in Europe was over, the commentator was talking
about the Nazi war crimes, as as he talked the camera showed British Army
bulldozers working a huge field of what looked like (I was about five at the
time) manikins from department stores that had been discarded, naked and
stiff, all over the ground.


Some of the dozers were dozing out huge, deep trenches. Other dozers were
pushing huge piles of these `manikins' into the trenches. And even more dozers
were pushing dirt into the trenches over the bodies. At some point it came to
me that, these weren't department store `manikins' at all...they were human
bodies. People who had died or been murdered, and their bodies were now being
buried in common trenches.


In the theatre the usual buzz of talk was completely absent.  Nobody was
saying anything. In fact, when I looked around at some of the adults sitting
in my vicinity, most of them weren't even looking at the screen. They couldn't
stand the sight of what they were being shown.


Fast forward to 2014.


Since the Roe v Wade case that caused the U.S. Supreme court to make a ruling
that was considered ok'ing abortion, 55 million-plus humans have been
destroyed.


Why is there no profound silence over that?


After WWII, there were war crimes trials in many countries of Europe, most
notably at Nuremburg. As a result of that trial, 21 individuals were hanged
for their part in war crimes.


Here in America, for 55-plus million dead victims of modern-day abortion laws,
we have one single individual who came to trial for the abominable methods he
used to kill healthy-born babies. How many more like him are out there that
have as yet not come to light?


For you and those in here who posted up `pat-on-the-back' messages to each
other `deploring' my opposition to abortion-on-demand, I put the question:

Why is murdering over 20 million or so in the WWII `holocaust' grounds for
hunting those responsible to the ends of the Earth, trying and executing them
(ala Eichmann), yet a whole nation can sit quietly by while 55-plus millions
were murdered in the womb? Why is what the Nazis did so horrid, yet what WE
have done since a matter of `a woman's right to privacy'?


I do not go on any political crusade against abortion. But I also do not vote
for those who support abortion on demand.

An abortion to save a woman's life, or to abort a fetus that is developing
into an unviable human (will be greatly retarded, or physically malformed) is
one thing.

Using abortion as an alternate means of `birth control' is quite another.


And lastly, I have raised this point many times in the past, but oddly, nobody
seems to be able to address it;

I do not now, nor have I EVER, made any statements that indicate a desire on
my part to deny women any right to make their own decisions.


But, using abortion as an alternative to using birth control isn't exactly my
idea of being very smart.


A woman's `right to decide' comes much earlier than the point where she's
deciding to have an abortion.


Her `right to decide' comes when the sex act begins. Her `right to choose'
which birth control, or birth preventive, to use. If a woman isn't smart
enough, or in control of her physical `needs' enough, to use easily-obtainable
birth preventives to keep from getting pregnant...what makes anyone think
she's competent enough to make a life or death decision in regard to an unborn
human child?

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