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Skriven 2014-03-08 17:08:25 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 12672 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
Ärende: War
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 Brer alexander koryagin wrote to Brer Roy Witt about Re: War:

 ak>>> Americans have got the same and pull out now.

 RW>> Not really. You were kicked in the ass by the Taliban. We've
 RW>> whipped them so badly that they're ASKING for a no-shooting
 RW>> time-out and now want to negotiate. Full well knowing that our
 RW>> stupid president has informed the whole world that we're leaving
 RW>> before the end of the year. Just like Iraq, all hell will break
 RW>> loose as soon as we do.

 ak>     The reason why the US leaves Afghanistan is the same the USSR
 ak> had.

Not really true either. The US has required an election to give the
country some leadership and a direction to go. If there was a really smart
prez or PM there, he'd know that he's going to be overthrown as soon as we
leave. Pakistan and Iran will be pushing him out the door as well.

 ak>  You kill thousands of people to make the country happy, but still
 ak> nobody likes you,

Somebody must like us, because there are factions that plead for us to
stay in spite of their prez.

 ak> and you constantly wait for a knife into your back, and anyway, you
 ak> got it in the most unexpected moment. And, besides, new technology
 ak> allows to kill people remotely.

You mean like the drones that we use to kill Taliban terrorists...Afghan
tribesmen like that.

 ak>  You need not the soldiers in Afghanistan, but gamers with joysticks
 ak> in America, to enjoy themselves.

I'd be happy to assist there. We use drones to patrol our borders, Russia
should have something like them.

 ak>>> I agree that the USSR had invaded in Afghanistan, but still,
 ak>>> looking EuroNews and BBS World reports I can't see the evidence of
 ak>>> Russian troop invasion into Ukraine.

 RW>> We knew that they had done so, 3 or 4 days ago, thanks to Fox News
 RW>> reporters being there on the ground both in Kiev and Simferopol.
 RW>> The initial advance was over 26k, while today it is reported that
 RW>> there are over 30k Russian troops reported there today...

 ak>     The Fox News has never made impartial reports.

I don't know where you get that idea. Fox News always reports the news as
it comes over the wires and lets their viewers make up their minds about
the content. BTW, there is no other news agency (CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, etc)
with the audience that FN has, because everyone knows that the news is
reported matter of factly. Even political enemies watch it because they
too know this.

 ak>  They believe those people in Kiev who shamelessly captured the
 ak> power, crushing all agreements.

I saw a FN reporter there on the ground, giving us a word by word
commentary on what is/was going on. What more do you need to be shown what
is going on? Besides being there yourself.

 ak> Now these people in Kiev cry out that they want negotiations. But
 ak> where can you find fools who can believe them once more? How is it
 ak> possible to have deal with them? They have discredited themselves
 ak> completely.

It doesn't matter anymore. The Crimea is lost to Russia, no matter what
else is done in Kiev.

 ak>     IMHO, the Ukrainian protesters in Kiev often told a lie. For
 ak> instance, they complained of tyranny, oppression, cruelty of the
 ak> police. But in reality, the Ukraine at that moment was the most free
 ak> country in the world.

As reported in Russia? And you believe that propaganda? Right...

 ak> Where in the world can you find authorities who could allow such a
 ak> long, violent protest?

Ummmm, Syria (over 3 years now) Egypt (about the same), Libya (2 years),
just to name a few.

 ak> Yanukovich constantly restrained the police from dispersing the
 ak> Maidan protesters. Once (when Yanukovich was out of the country) the
 ak> police brutally cleared Maidan square. When Yanukovich returned he
 ak> sacked the police chief and allowed the protesters return to Maidan
 ak> square.

Freedom of speach is not alive and well in Ukraine?

 ak>     Tell me the truth -- what an American policeman will do if a
 ak> protester will try to burn him alive with a petrol bomb (or a
 ak> Molotov's cocktail)? I strongly believe that he will use his firearm.

Probably so, but we don't have violent protests in America...we have
freedom of speech. We do have protests on college campus' but then,
they're just misled students who have liberal teachers.

 ak>     It is a lie that protesters have defended themselves -- actually,
 ak> they shamelessly used that great freedom that was in the Ukraine at
 ak> that moment. The only things that bothered the opposition -- they had
 ak> lost elections, the government was formed by another party (of
 ak> Yanukovich), and they could not act as they wanted.

More Russian propaganda deleted for brevity.

 RW>> How did all of those Russian troops and tanks get Simferopol,
 RW>> Crimea? There are no briges over the Strait of Kerch!

 ak>     No, they didn't. But many military in the Crimea have refused to
 ak> obey the orders from Kiev. That is the reason why the Crimea
 ak> authority has so strong armed forces at its own disposal now.

LOL!


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