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Skriven 2014-04-01 12:53:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av BILL MCGARRITY
Ärende: Re: Aganist Abortion
============================
On 03-31-14, BILL MCGARRITY said to TIM RICHARDSON:

-=> TIM RICHARDSON wrote to WARD DOSSCHE <=-



TR> I can't wait till a few more abortion mills like Gosnell's, are exposed
TR> as the death chambers they really are. And it will happen. I strongly
TR> suspect the Gosnell case is just a scratch on the surface.


BM>On another point that is probably dear to your convictions.... how do you
BM>feel about the Hobby Lobby suit if you freely gave out birth control
BM>pills, some to, according to your words, mentally handicapped who may have
BM>or may not have known exactly what was being given to them.


Hobby Lobby is a business that has nothing whatever to do with caring for the
mentally handicapped, who are not mentally able to make informed, sensible
decisions for themselves.


The people who work at Hobby Lobby are (get ready, folks) WORKING for a
living, earning their OWN money, and making their OWN informed decisions.


Those who are mentally handicapped usually can't even make the decision to
change their SOCKS once a day, without a staff member on their group home
telling them to!


There are other methods of controlling pregnancy among the mentally
handicapped, without issuing birth control pills.


By the way...the mentally handicapped who live in group homes get much better
medical care than you or I do. An entire medical staff comes to one of the
group homes my employer's sister operates and a large number of her clients
who live in one of the twenty group homes she owns and operates, are brought
there and recieve examinations, and regular care.


The females of child-bearing age are prescribed birth control pills, either by
that group of physicians, or in the case of the clients' family having their
OWN physicians (its not rare), the prescription comes from them.


As for Hobby Lobby....remember Sandra Fluke?


She got up in front of a Congressional committee, ON camera, in front of the
whole nation, and made the ridiculous claim that her `birth control costs over
$3000 per year'!


THEN.....got pissed off when a well-known talk radio show host called her a
slut!


She's a single woman. What she `does' with her body is `her' business.


But...lets look at her `over $3000 per year claim a little:


First of all...a quick look out on the InterNet.....lets `google' birth
control pills, shall we? Hold on a bit....


Well...prices vary for a 30 day supply of Tri-Sprintec, from $9 all the way up
to $63 per month depending on where you shop.


Then there's....oh hell! Lets just do a list of those that are easily within
the affordability range of any woman who'd have a job at Hobby Lobby:


Avaine---@0 to $45 for a months supply

Gianvi---$45 to $74

Loestrion 24FE---$48 to $116

Lutera---$19 to $40

Ocella---$40 to $80

Ortho Tri Cyclen Lo 28---$37 to $162

Tri Nessa-28---$16 to $49

Tri-Sprintec 28---$12 to $49

Yasmin 28---$80 to $105

Yaz-28---$65 to $130


So...the price variance reflects WHERE you shop for what you want.


Now...lets get back to Sandra Fluke and her `over $3000 per year for birth
control' claim;


Look at all those birth control prices above.

Do the math.

NONE of those individual items add up to the `over $3000 per year' she
claimed!


In other words...she LIED to a Congressional committee! Of course,,,she's a
student at LIAR's (law) school!


But...the main point is...the entire argument the democrats presented (using
HER to press their point) is based on a HUGE LIE!


And its been my experience that, when legislation is, or HAS to be, based on
lies to get it passed into law...its not good for anyone, and almost always
turns out bad.


Now lets address Hobby Lobby and its situation regarding this;


A huge question arises right off the bat:


*Sex* is not an activity engaged in at work! *Sex* is an activity engaged in
on someone's own time, in a setting that has nothing whatever to do with the
work place.

So....what makes the democrat leftists and their cadre come up with the notion
that Hobby Lobby, or any other employer for that matter, becomes responsible
for supplying pregnancy preventives, at the employer's expense?


And...Hobby Lobby is an outfit that is owned and operated by solidly believing
Christians. By their Christian beliefs, abortion in all its forms is against
what they practice as their religion.


And believe this: IF this were about Islamic women dressing from head to toe,
or sending Islamic girls to public schools wearing that headdress I see a lot
of Islamic school girls made to wear by their Islamic parents....we wouldn't
be having this conversation in the first place!


OR...if it was about Jewish children wearing Yarmulks to school (and where I
grew up a LOT of the Jewish children wore Yarmulks to class), we would ALso
not be having this conversation.


The democrats and their cadre are determined to obliterate Christianity and
all its beliefs and teachings, in every way they can.


But it boils down to this;


I quote in part from the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United
States:


*Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof;*


Thats pretty plain and un-ambiguous. Pay attention to the `...or prohibiting
the free exercise thereof' part. See that right there?


That, like the entire document...means exactly what it say. Congress cannot
make any law that prohibits the free exercise of a religion.


Christianity is a `religion'. And HAS been for two thousand years! Its older
than Islam by about 600 years!


And before you throw the age of Jewry at me...allow me to point out that
Christianity was established by a JEW...with the help of His JEWISH followers!


The bottom line in all this is simple:


Either the Constitution means what it says...or it doesn't!


We either have `freedom of religion' in this country...or we don't!


If this decision makes Hobby Lobby go against its religious standards and
principles, then the Constitution is dead!


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