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Skriven 2012-07-28 23:39:25 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
Ärende: Ward's Z1 node number
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Hello Janis,

On Saturday July 28 2012 07:11, you wrote to me:

 >>> #3) And aren't you now pushing him to get a Z1 node number by asking
 >>> what's new with getting one here in Z1 while he's in Montana?

 >> Inquiring about the progress is not "pushing".

 JK> OIC.

 JK> Don't make me laugh so hard.

Laugh all you want. "Pushing" is trying to make someone do something he would
not have done on his own and that he does not really want to do.

It was Ward's own idea. I, nor anyone else here, did "push" him to apply for a
Z1 node number while in Montana.

I did not disapprove of it either. Why should I? Is it not in the job
description of every *C to promote the growth of the network? Should we not all
be happy when a new node is added to the nodelist? Should we not encourage
every new potential sysop to join the network?

 >> But now that - by bringing it up - you admit knowing about Ward's
 >> application for a Z1 node number for the Fidonet system he has been
 >> running in Montana for well over a month now: why does it take so long?
 >> Montana is in Z1, so he shoul have a number in Z1 for that system. Why
 >> has his application for a node number not been honoured yet?

 >> Assigning a node number and entering it in the nodelist isn't rocket
 >> science i it?

 JK> I guess it must be rocket science to Ward, because the only reason I
 JK> can think of for not getting a node number

So you can think of only one reason...

    ... and right away you come up with two...

 JK> for a legitimate sysop in Zone 1 would be that a person hasn't
 JK> followed the simple instructions he was given;

Auw, c'mon... you don't really want to make us believe that Ward with well over
two decades of FidoNet experience is unable to pass the application procedure? 
 JK> or it could be that given Ward's recent actions re: the nodelist in
 JK> Zone 1 and Zone 3, he's now considered a troublemaker that no one
 JK> wants in their net;

The requirement for joining Fidonet is to have an FTN compatible mailer on-line
that can send and receive netmail at least during ZMH. Nowhere does it say that
"to be considered a trouble maker" is cause for denying a node number. Fidonet
is and was always full of trouble makers. *Cs have been fired for refusing to
accept e node "because he is considered a trouble maker".

Suppose xxxCarol were to come to The Netherlands. For example to be stationed
at the Navy yard in Den Helder. Suppose she applied or a node number in net 280
and I refused on the ground that she is considered a trouble maker. Would you
accept that?

 JK>  I'm just guessing here, you understand.

I do not believe you do not know exactly what the reason for the delay is.


Cheers, Michiel

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