Text 17172, 125 rader
Skriven 2014-07-27 23:34:00 av Bill McGarrity (9452.2fidonews)
  Kommentar till text 17168 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Re: The Global Warming Sc
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-=> On 07-27-14 16:56, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-



 BM>Well, what do you know... I would have won!!!


 BM>Yadda Yadda Yadda..... Tim, WHERE IS THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION REGARDING
 BM>JASON BOX!!!


 TR> A headline from the Columbus Dispatch (Columbus, Ohio, that is)


 TR> RESEARCH PROJECTS GET FUNDING FROM PUBLIC


 TR> And then it goes on to say `Greenland's ice melting fast, and Jason Box
 TR> can't wait for a government research grant to get him there. (Aside:
 TR> the funding hadn't yet been attached to some other bill as a `rider'
 TR> AKA `pork')


 TR> So Box tried `crowd-funding', instead. (AKA `other people's money).


 TR> And...it turns out...research programs at Ohio State University (OSU)
 TR> cost the taxpayers' a tidy sum of money. In fact...according to a
 TR> chart I saw for the year 2013, `federally-funded' grants (taxpayers
 TR> money) was right around $976 MILLION dollars! And of that....the
 TR> `National Science Foundation' (which is a United States government
 TR> agency (taxpayers money)) poured around $56.1 million dollars
 TR> (taxpayers money) into OSU.


 TR> The total for R&D from the federal government (taxpayers money) for the
 TR> year 2013 shows $976 million dollars!


 TR> Almost a billion dollars (of taxpayers' money)...out of which Mr. Box
 TR> can cut himself into a rather comfortable well-paying career, if he
 TR> plays it right!


 TR> By the way.....two things:


 TR> Back around a thousand years ago....the Vikings used to live on
 TR> Greenland and `farm' there. It was warmer then (the midieval warm
 TR> period).


 TR> When the `Little Ice Age came, the Vikings left or died there. Life
 TR> became harsh.


 TR> There is evidence that greenland has passed through warm and cold
 TR> spells for many thousands of years.


 TR> Box (on the taxpayer's dime) spent (think about this carefully) *over
 TR> one year* during the course of *two decades* (that is..about one year
 TR> out of `twenty')  camped on the ice in Greenland,


 TR> And the clarion call is `can we save Greenland'....yaddida yaddida!


 TR> THe only thing that has come of Box's work (along with the work of many
 TR> othersd in the field is, this Earth goes through warming and cooling
 TR> spells pretty regularly over long periods of time.


 TR> So...Box has a huge stake in strongly refuting Ball, as failing to do
 TR> so would mean he'd have to fall back on depending on some other way to
 TR> make his living.

 TR> In other words...Box has a `financial' reason to try to refute Ball.


 TR> (Why am I not surprised?)

Tim, as usual you speak only of money but tell me something, has his research
been wrong when it comes to his ability to predict specific movements of ice,
which, according to recorded data, is melting faster than ever before?  Why is
that? Now if you would read the data he's discussing, it has to do with the
reflectivity of the sun off the ice during the summer months, which, as you
must know, keeps the ice from melting. Being the ice is starting to turn black
due to extrmeme hydrocarbons, it looses its reflectivity.  Even if there are
natural swings, the fact still remains the changes we're seeing are extreme as
compared to those natural swings over the past 4,000 years.  This problem is,
all you think of is the money and be damned Mother Earth and how we as humans
intact with it.  You have still not given proof other than it's pricetag.  Tell
me something, a year out of your life how much work do you think you can get
done?  Plus, it's about 360 more days that Ball spent in the field doing his
research.

Tim, you have no rebuttal when it comes to the findings of Dr. Box other than
the god you pray to.. the almighty dollar.  Sure you aren't on of the long lost
Koch brothers.  Your MO fits.









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