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Skriven 2014-08-07 17:29:22 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 17463 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Nuke the World
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Hello Tim,

 AK>>>>> Maybe, shooting through the child was acceptable in the past, but
 AK>>>>> surely it must not be acceptable in the 21st century.


 TR>>> Thats probably the very reasoning of the Ayrab raghead terrorists.


 LL>> Arabs are fighting for two things.  The first thing is survival.


 TR> Their survival is only dependent on one thing: STOP KILLING JEWS!!!!!!!!!

"There is no humane or legal justification for the way the Israel
Defense Forces are conducting this war."
- former US president Jimmy Carter and former Irish presidnt
Mary Robinson, 'How to Fix It', Foreign Policy magazine

Lest you think Carter's words are one-sided -

"There is never an excuse for deliberate attacks on civilians in
conflict. These are war crimes. ... This is true for both sides.
Hamas's indiscriminate targeting of Israeli civilians is equally
unacceptable."
- former US president Jimmy Carter, and former Irish president
Mary Robinson, ibid

 LL>> The other thing is for land.


 TR> They had their land. They were living in Gaza. keeping their land is only
 TR> dependent on one thing: STOP KILLING JEWS!!!!!!!!!

Carter and Robinson advocate a solution - the authorization of a
Palestinian state next to Israel.

 LL>> By their lights, they have absolutely
 LL>> nothing left to lose, so life itself is expendable.


 TR> In that case, Israel will see to it they `expend' their lives gladly!

How would the genocide of Palestinians be any different than
what Hitler did to the Jews?  The idea of "Kill 'em all let God
sort 'em out" is a rather primitive concept, advocated only by
barbarians.

 LL>> Better to die a martyr than to continue living a life with no hope.


 TR> They have often, and for many decades, expressed the intention to kill
 TR> every Jew in the Middle East.

In every major Arab city there is a Jewish quarter.  Some of the
families who live there are of mixed faiths.  Imagine that, having
one parent who is Jewish and one parent who is Muslim.  And you
know what?  Those couples love each other very much.  So much that
they keep making babies one after another ...

 TR> They have often, and for many decades, expressed their desire to wipe
 TR> every Jew from the face of the Earth.

Zionists, not Jews.  They might call them Jews, but they mean Zionists.
There is a difference.

Judaism is a religion.  Zionism is a political ideology.
The Jews have traded their religion for that of a political state.
And this is what Arabs and Muslims throughout the world have sworn
to dismantle and throw into the sea.

 TR> By Israel's reasoning, they are fighting for two things:

Land, and more land.

 TR> First, their right to exist.

And Palestinians have no right to exist?

 TR> Second: their right to survival.

And Palestinians have no right to survival?

 LL>> They view the land they live in as being their own, a land that is
 LL>> occupied
 LL>> by what they call "the enemy".


 TR> The Israelis view the land where they live as being their own.

Palestinians view the land the Israelis live on as being Palestinian
land, but are willing to make a deal so that all can live in peace.

 TR> They are under constant attack with rockets, mortars, snipers,
infiltrators,
 TR> murderers, and are not allowed to just live in peace.

Palestinians in Gaza are under constant attack from real military
weapons rather than homemade weapons good only for killing turtles
in a creek.

Since July 3, when the Israeli operation began in Gaza, only 3 of
the 65 Israelis who have been killed by Hamas were civilians.  On the
other hand, the vast majority of the 1,800+ Palestinians who have died
by the Israeli Defense Forces were civilians - including at least 330
children.

 TR>>> I notice the outrage of the world when some child a terrorist is
 TR>>> holding in front of them as a shield gets hurt or killed.


 LL>> The secretary-general of the United Nations is outraged that so
 LL>> many Palestinian children have been murdered by the ongoing Israeli
 LL>> operation.


 TR> The Palestinian children you so quickly accuse Israel of `murdering',
 TR> are in fact murdered by their own people. those who deliberately place
 TR> military weapons in schools and hospitals, are the ones responsible
 TR> for the deaths of any children or hospital patients who are killed
 TR> by Israel returning fire.

Perhaps you did not get it the first time, so here it is again -

"There is never an excuse for deliberate attacks on civilians
in conflict.  These are war crimes." - Jimmy Carter & Mary Robinson

To emphasize the point -

"The need for international judicial proceedings to investigate
and end these violations of international law should be taken very
seriously." - Jimmy Carter & Mary Robinson

 TR> The UN sectretary general is complicit in those deaths and injuries, as
 TR> it is impossible that secretary was unaware the Ayrab ragheads were
 TR> hiding rockets and mortars right in UN schools! Which makes the UN
 TR> secretary general just as guilty as the Ayrab ragheads.

It should be a full and complete investigation, leaving no stone
left unturned.  Only then will it be possible to find those who have
been most responsible for having committed such war crimes.

 LL>> The president of the United States has also stated his
 LL>> own dismay.


 AK>>> In some movies, a terrorist puts a gun to a hostage's temple and demands
 AK>>> the policeman to lay down his gun on the floor. And the policeman does
 AK>>> it, and sometimes he is killed.


 TR>> This isn't the movies. This is reality. The reality is, you protect
 TR>> yourself and your brothers-in-arms.


 LL>> Over 1,800 Palestinian men, women and children have been slaughtered
 LL>> by Israel in the latest fighting in Gaza.

[..]

Over 250,000 Palestinians are without electricity or water in Gaza.

Israel must lift the sanctions on Gaza and remove the blockade so
that people and goods can easily get in and out, making it possible
to once again for residents of Gaza to travel freely to and from
Israel, Jordan, and Egypt.

 LL>> The entire world is appalled that so many innocents have died.


 TR> The entire world should maybe tell the Ayrab ragheads to STOP KILLING
 TR> JEWS!!!!

"Hamas cannot be wished away, nor will it cooperate in its own demise."
- Jimmy Carter & Mary Robinson

 LL>> How can such non-combatants possibly protect themselves from such an
 LL>> onslaught of bombs being dropped upon them by Israeli airplanes?


 TR> Where is the world's outrage at the onslaught of terror and mass murder
 TR> the Ayrab ragheads are constantly committing against Israel?

"Only by recognizing its legitimacy as a political actor -- one that
represents a substantial portionof the Palestinian people -- can the
West begin to provide the right incentives for Hamas to lay down its
weapons." - Jimmy Carter & Mary Robinson

 TR> How can non-combatant Jews possibly protect themselves from such an
 TR> onslaught of rockets, mortars, car bombs, and suicide bombers, that
 TR> are being used on them by Ayrab ragheads?

The authorization of a Palestinian state next to Israel would do that
quite nicely.

 TR> The solution is easy: STOP KILLING JEWS!!!!!!!!!!

It's a two-way street.  Both sides have to stop killing each other.
The only way that is going to happen is for Palestinians to be able
to control their own separate and sovereign political state.

 TR>> Yeah...thats the liberal socialist media's notion of how to `shape'
 TR>> everybody's thinking `for' them.


 LL>> Some forms of murder are better (or worse) than other forms of murder?


 TR> Yeah...rockets and mortars from UN school yards raining on Israel, killing
 TR> Jews, as opposed to car bombs, suicide vests and kidnapping-murders, that
 TR> also kill Jews.

Both sides are intent on killing each other until there is no one
left on the other side.  Until that cycle of violence is broken, it
will continue et al infinitum until the end of time.

Fortunately, there is hope.  Or at least President Obama (and his
secretary of state John Kerry) thinks so.

 LL>> Violence begets violence.  More violence begets more violence.


 TR> No. That is not the case here.

Seems there has been an awful lot of violence in Gaza going on ...

 TR> The Ayrab ragheads have been calling for the complete distruction of
 TR> Israel for decades.

How is that any different than what some crazy right-wing Jews have
been advocating in regards to Palestinians?

 TR> They have loudly, and without protest from th4e rest of the world,
expressed
 TR> their intent to kill every Jew in the Middle East!

How many Iranians went on the warpath against Israel when their madcap
president advocated throwing Jews into the sea?  None.  Many laughed at
him, some cried, and others simply did not care.

 TR> Just as the Nazis expressed their intent to kill every Jew in Europe, or
 TR> every Jew in the world that ever came under their control.

Palestinians are not madmen and only want to live in peace with
their neighbors.  But first they need to have a home of their own.

 TR> They have even expressed that intent in the UN.

Palestinians have expressed their most fervest wish and desire as
being to have their own independent and sovereign state.  As such,
the United Nations should grant authorization for a Palestinian
state, and the entire world (including the US) should be supportive.

 TR> Where is the world's outrage at such intentions? The `silence' on the
 TR> expressed Ayrab raghead's intentions and efferts to carry their threat
 TR> out is deafening!

In 1948 the world recognized Israel as a state, even though Israel
had rejected the UN partition plan (the creation of two Palestinian
states).

It is now 2014, and the world has yet to recognize Palestine
as a state.  At some point, the world will have no choice but
to take notice and recognize the obvious.  Once it does, there
will be peace, as Israel will have no choice but to go along.

 LL>> There will never be peace if violence continues to be made, regardless
 LL>> of which side commits the violence or against whom that violence is
 LL>> committed.


 TR> The jews and Ayrab ragheads have been `holocausting' each other for many
 TR> thousands of years. Their will never be peace in that region until each
 TR> and every Jew and Ayrab raghead are dead and gone. (None too soon, to
 TR> suit me)

There are 350 million Arabs to 15 million Jews.  What will happen
when Arabs over-run Israel?  NYC will have a significant increase in
population, overtaking Los Angeles as the largest city in the US,
with the vast majority of its population having long beards and
wearing beanies.

 AK>>>> If we weigh it -- making a target from a child is one thing;
 AK>>>> killing this child is another. Surely killing of a child
 AK>>>> overweights. Well, when humans weigh it.


 TR>> That's how Ayrabs like outsiders to think.


 LL>> Arabs are among the friendliest people in the world.


 TR> Yes...I've noticed how friendly they are. They've only been murdering
 TR> Americans indiscriminately for around sixty years, now. Geez...it might
 TR> have been longer, but they're so `friendly' and all...they took it
 TR> easy on us!

Timothy McVeigh was an American terrorist, raised Catholic, served
in the Army.

David Koresh was an American terrorist, a Christian schoolteacher,
had his own army and stockpile of guns.

The Unabomber was an American terrorist, a college professor ...

 LL>> You just have to get to know them first.


 TR> Yeah...we only have to have enough of us, both American citizens and
 TR> Jews, murdered by Ayrab raghead terrorists, ...you know....`get to
 TR> know them'.

Timothy McVeigh murdered 168 men, women and children on a bright
and sunny day in Oklahoma City.  And he was raised Catholic, not as
a Muslim or "Ayrab raghead terrorist" ...

 TR> Lets see....they are murderous, deceitful, treacherous, sneaky,
 TR> cold-blooded, fanatical, lying pieces of pig dung.

And all Catholics are like Timothy McVeigh?

 TR> Their prophet, Mohammad, was a child-molesting, pedophiliac,
 TR> sodomy-for-jihad Ayrab raghead, who didn't know his ass from
 TR> his elbow without help.

Early Christians looked upon the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as
being a holy man.  Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the
same true God.  Even Muslims admit there are a billion names
for God.

 TR> Their god, allah, is a sodomy-loving, pig-eating figment of some
 TR> ayrab raghead's imagination, invented by some Ayrab raghead
 TR> big-wig long ago, for the purposes of keeping women in perpetual
 TR> slavery, controlling the thoughts and lives of their population
 TR> of ignorant, camel-herding useful idiots, and dominating the
 TR> world.

"We are all of the blood of Abraham" could equally be said
by Jews, Christians and Muslims alike.  Jerusalem is a city
that is home to peoples of all three faiths, and the people
who have lived there have done so in peace for centuries.

 LL>> And once you do, they will love you to death.  In the most literal
 LL>> of ways.


 TR> And according to the outspoken UN puppets, useful idiots in media,
 TR> and know-nothing, easily-led lemmings of the left, we should just
 TR> `go along to get along'.

Doing nothing will not create peace in the region.
George W. Bush tried that approach and it only made
matters worse.  At least President Obama is trying
to do something by sending his secretary of state
John Kerry to get the two sides to put aside their
grievances and stop fighting.

 TR>> My take is; they must have had a reason for wanting that child to die,
 TR>> or they wouldn't have used them as a shield from my weapon.


 LL>> Sending a child straight to Paradise is certainly better than
 LL>> forcing that child to live a life of poverty and despair ...


 TR> That could almost have been Adolf Eichmann's defense at his trial
 TR> in Tel Aviv back in the sixties!

It was a kangaroo court that tried and convicted Eichmann.
I am not saying he was innocent, but rather that he could not
have been able to have gotten a fair trial in Israel given
who he was and what was done to the Jewish people during
WWII.  After he was hanged, the Israelis cremated his
remains and scattered them over the Mediterranean Sea.

 TR> `Well....yer honor....sending all the Jews to meet their god of
 TR> Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, was FAR more humane than making them
 TR> live a life of slave labor, starvation and eventually being
 TR> worked to death by we Nazis'!

Eichmann did not kill anybody.  He was just a clerk.
But since he was a Nazi, and Mossad had kidnapped him
in a foreign country, it was okay for Israel to put
him on trial and convict him and hang him and scatter
his cremated remains over the Mediterranean Sea.

The United Nations found Israel guilty, slapping
Golda Meir with a two-week censure.

 TR>> Either way....I am not responsible for that child's death....they are!


 LL>> You are your brother's keeper.  That is the lesson taught
 LL>> in all three faiths - Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.


 TR> I am the follower of none of those. I am not a `religionist'. My
 TR> position is the position I was taught by one of my grandmothers;

What was that?

 TR> Live and let live!

If the world had stood by and done nothing, Adolf Hitler
and the Nazis would have not only started the Third Reich,
but would have laid the foundation for the Fourth Reich
as well.

And yes, we would all be speaking and writing German today.

 LL>> As such, not only are you responsible for that child's death,
 LL>> we all are.


 TR> The only thing `we' are responsible for is the lack of both outrage
 TR> and physical reaction to the Islamic Ayrab raghead terrorists who
 TR> deliberately used that child to gin up support from the community
 TR> of nations against Israel.

I thought the picture showed two children being pinned up against
that wall.  Parents really should not scorn their children so harshly.
Especially outdoors where others can see.

--Lee

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