Text 1964, 78 rader
Skriven 2012-08-05 16:33:34 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
   Kommentar till text 1947 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
Ärende: Quoting problem
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Hello Dale,

On Saturday August 04 2012 23:47, you wrote to me:

 MVDV>> It is YOUR system that is at fault.

 MVDV>> That is because your system does not put a paragraph
 MVDV>> seperator between the end of your ow text and the quoted
 MVDV>> text marked by the string "MVDV>". That way it is in the
 MVDV>> middle of a paragraph and not recognised as quoted text.
 MVDV>> Here is a hex dump of the first part of your orginal
 MVDV>> message:

 DS> What is "ow text"?

"own". Sorry a letter dropped out.

 DS>   My editor does put EOL characters in,

It did not in the message that I made the hex dump for.

 DS>  which seems to be sufficient for every one else who sends quotes back
 DS> to me.

I have seen the anomaly in other messages as well.

 DS> What constitutes a paragraph separator for you?

Fidonet messages have no lines. They have paragraphs. paragraphs are seperated
by a hex 0D character. In other contexts called a carriage return.

The message from the hex dump did not have a paragraph separator.

The message I am responding to now, does have x0D charaters at the right place
and so this time, there is no problem with the quoting:

Hexdump of message text:

0000   20 2D 3D 3E  20 4F 6E 20  30 38 2D 30  34 2D 31 32   -=> On 08-04-12
0010   20 20 32 31  3A 31 38 2C  20 20 4D 69  63 68 69 65    21:18,  Michie
0020   6C 20 56 61  6E 20 44 65  72 20 56 6C  69 73 74 20  l Van Der Vlist
0030   3C 3D 2D 0D  20 2D 3D 3E  20 73 70 6F  6B 65 20 74  <=-. -=> spoke t
0040   6F 20 44 61  6C 65 20 53  68 69 70 70  20 61 62 6F  o Dale Shipp abo
0050   75 74 20 57  61 72 64 27  73 20 5A 31  20 6E 6F 64  ut Ward's Z1 nod
0060   65 20 6E 75  6D 62 65 20  3C 3D 2D 0D  0D 0D 20 44  e numbe <=-... D
0070   53 3E 20 59  6F 75 72 20  65 64 69 74  6F 72 20 69  S> Your editor i
0080   73 20 73 74  69 6C 6C 20  6D 65 73 73  69 6E 67 20  s still messing
0090   75 70 20 74  68 65 20 71  75 6F 74 65  73 2E 20 20  up the quotes.
00A0   49 20 64 69  64 20 6E 6F  74 20 73 61  79 20 74 68  I did not say th
00B0   65 20 61 62  6F 76 65 2C  0D 20 44 53  3E 20 79 6F  e above,. DS> yo
00C0   75 20 64 69  64 20 2D 2D  20 61 6E 64  20 6D 79 20  u did -- and my
00D0   71 75 6F 74  65 73 20 73  68 6F 77 65  64 20 74 68  quotes showed th
00E0   61 74 2C 0D  0D 20 4D 56  44 56 3E 20  49 74 20 69  at,.. MVDV> It i
00F0   73 20 59 4F  55 52 20 73  79 73 74 65  6D 20 74 68  s YOUR system th

See here:

00E0   61 74 2C 0D  0D 20 4D 56  44 56 3E 20  49 74 20 69  at,.. MVDV> It i

There are two carriage returns just before the " MVDV>" and so this time it is
recognised as qouted text. In the other message that was missing and the quoted
part was not recognised as such.

 MVDV>> Also the reply kludge is missing in your messages, which
 MVDV>> makes it difficult to go back in the tread.

 DS> There is no way I know of for me to put in a "reply kludge".  If you
 DS> or anyone else can tell me how to do that, I will certainly do so.  I
 DS> am using BW offline reader on QWK packets from Maximus.

So apparently your software is crippled. All I can do is to advise you to
upgrade to software that is compatible with FTSC standards.


Cheers, Michiel

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