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Text 2544, 104 rader
Skriven 2012-08-19 15:53:02 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
   Kommentar till text 2506 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: International Law
=========================
Hello Björn,

 RB>> Your ignorance of international copyright law.

BJ>And your ignorance of legal matters are typical.

BF>1. There is no such thing as international law.

Then what is an "international terrorist"?
Or "international criminal"?  Are you saying
or suggesting there is no such animal?

And what about the United Nations?  Oh, that's
right.  The United Nations passes resolutions, not
laws.  Gotta remember that.

Aha!  The International World Court!  Bringing
international criminals to justice!  The Serbian
dictator enjoyed his stay, and when the trial was
over he went straight to heaven without ever being
convicted of any crime.  Egypt decided to convict
their own dictator, sending him to prison for less
than a full day.  Libyans gave their dictator not
even an hour upon conviction, so eager to put him
(and one of his sons) on display at a local
supermarket for his crimes.  Not exactly sure what
happened to the bodies after they were taken off
the meat hooks.

BF>Main reason for this is that there is no international
BF>LEA -- even if the US seems to think they are.

Criminals do not recognize political boundaries.  They do what
they do because they are criminals.  If the USA managed to stop
all immigration, there would still be criminals inside the USA.
Just like there would still be criminals inside Germany.  Or
France.  Or Sweden.  Or China.  Or Russia.  Or anywhere else.

Timothy McVeigh was a criminal who blew up a federal building,
killing 168 men, women and children.  Some even called him a
terrorist.  But nobody called him an international terrorist
(never mind the fact his accomplice traveled to the Philippines
and met with Muslim extremists to learn how to make the bomb).

A group of foreigners in the USA took flying lessons and then
misused the freedom they had by flying airplanes into buildings
killing thousands of innocent men, women and children.  Everybody
in the world called them "international terrorists".  Even though
only four of the nineteen terrorists knew how to fly an airplane.

Those who break copyright law are criminals.  Some would even call
them terrorists.  Because we live in a digital age, copyrighted
material is very easy for criminals to steal.  And those criminals
do not recognize international boundaries.

Really.  I kid you not.  I am not making this up.

Recent legislation passed in the USA means even "fair use" might be
considered a violation of copyright law.  And that means everybody in
the whole world is guilty of being a criminal.  Not just a criminal,
but also a terrorist.  An international terrorist.  Especially
teenagers armed with iPods who download mp3 files and blast them from
their car stereo speakers as they drive down the highway...

BF>2.By the time of all this, what I did was perfectly legal in Sweden.

Theft is legal in Sweden?

 RB>> You're only lucky that whoever informed DynDNS didn't also alert the
 RB>> Swedish authorities.

BF>But they did. Or rather had a law firm in Stockholm send me a
BF>threatening letter. When I explained the Swedish law to them, they
BF>just crawled back under the stone they came from.

Wimps.

 RB>> As you're well aware, the only reason The Pirate
 RB>> Bay is legal under Swedish law (although there have been some sharp
 RB>> debates reported from Sweden on the subject) is the fact that there are
 RB>> NO! copyrighted downloads available on the site.

BF>As you obviously is *not* aware, is the final outcome of the trial.

OJ was innocent.  Or so the jury said.  But not to worry.
He was later framed for something else, and then duly convicted.

 RB>> That apparently didn't apply to you, and thus you were not only
 RB>> uninformed but even breaking Swedish law at the time you offered
 RB>> copyrighted material at your site.

BF>You are dead wrong -- as usual.

In the USA people have a choice of entering one of two pleas -

* Guilty
* Not Guilty

Notice that nobody is allowed to enter a plea of Innocent.

--Lee

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