Text 29406, 69 rader
Skriven 2015-12-23 10:45:28 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.73)
  Kommentar till text 29344 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Rules of Echomail
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23 Dec 15 08:15, you wrote to me:

 DS>>>> Exactly -- i.e. P4 does not cover content of messages except for
 DS>>>> messages containing certain specific exceptions as mentioned in the
 DS>>>> policy document (e.g. encrypted mail, illegal content, etc.).

 DD>>> And considering that Policy tells us that we're not to look at in
 DD>>> transit netmail,

 ml>> wrong! there is no such policy... operators have always had the right
 ml>> to inspect all traffic and files that land on their systems... in
 ml>> some places, they may be held legally liable for certain traffic on
 ml>> or passing through their system(s) whether they know about said
 ml>> traffic or not...

 DD> Can you sate what jurisdictions a Fidonet node is subject to such laws?

yes, i can...

 DD> I suggest to you that it is an urban myth.

i suggest to you that you consider the local laws relative to the system
handling the message at X point in time...

 DD>>> how would anyone other than the sender and the recipient know what
 DD>>> was in that netail?

 ml>> there is always directly delivered netmail...

 DD> Are you suggesting that the recipient is the one who is
 DD> offended/cannot decrypt the message etc?

i'm suggesting that it is possible, yes... again, consider the situation where
nazi-related material was delivered directly to another system in the hope that
it would be illegal in the destination system's area as well as being offensive
to the destination sysop...

 DD>>> And as for illegal content, illegal according to whose laws?

 ml>> the laws of the area(s) which govern each individual sysop... look
 ml>> back at the situation where one sysop sent nazi related material to
 ml>> another system with the idea of getting them in trouble with the laws
 ml>> in the destination operator's area... nazi material is illgeal in
 ml>> certain geopolitical areas... just having it on one's system in those
 ml>> geopolitical areas can land one in jail...

 DD> State when/where this has happened.

where and when what happened? the nazi material thing? why don't you just ask
the two parties involved...

originating operator: Roy Witt
destination operator: Michiel van der Vlist

 DD> More urban myth!

your own ignorance...

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