Text 29853, 67 rader
Skriven 2015-12-28 08:40:10 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.73)
  Kommentar till text 29833 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Rules of Echomail
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28 Dec 15 13:17, you wrote to me:

 DD>>> reaping the card details and then cashing in for free bus trips.

 ml>> oh yea of little mind... can't conceive of more than little
 ml>> thoughts... they can easily move the money to certain accounts and
 ml>> then clean them out via ATMs using mules to hit hundreds of ATMs
 ml>> pulling the limit each time and sending the funds on further upstream
 ml>> while keeping their "fee" back...

 DD> AFAIK RFID does NOT work at ATMs - at least any of the ones I've used.

i didn't say it did... read what's in front of you, eh?! i said that they move
the money to certain accounts and then clean them out via ATMs... i never said
anything about the money taken via RFID reaping was placed /directly/ into an
account serviced by ATMs...

RFID reap -> fake or hacked retail account -> another account -> etc -> ATM
serviced account

 DD> In Australia, and I imagine in Europe, RFID transactions do not
 DD> currently offer transfers transactions either, only retail type
 DD> payments.

 ml>> they can even set ATMs into programming mode and cause them to dump
 ml>> the contents of their bill holders... ATM manuals are available on
 ml>> the internet and some of them have usb connectors that are accessible
 ml>> for exactly this...

 DD> Have you seen these USB connections?

yes...

 DD> As yet there is no reported evidence of this happening, in this
 DD> country at least.

you depend on the news for too much... everyone already knows that the news is
jaded one way or the other and only report maybe half of what they are aware
of...

 ml>> as a supposed IT guy, you really are behind the times and definitely
 ml>> out of touch with the security problems in today's world when it
 ml>> comes to financial transactions...

 DD> I don't hold with conspiracy theorists' hypothetical situations either.

i'm not a conspiracy theorist... your hypothetical is someone else's reality...

 DD> BTW - My role at work doesn't involve financial transactions, just
 DD> personal data.

i said security... it doesn't matter if it is financial or personal or
corporate data... isn't that data on those RFID card personal data? are you
sure that your network is not being used to shuttle stolen data out onto the
internet highway on to its next destination?

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've
killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do
with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... MS-DOS is to a real OS as "creation science" is to paleontology.
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