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Text 35226, 79 rader
Skriven 2016-07-28 03:05:49 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 35166 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: No Restrictions
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Hello Björn,

 JK>> You are buying into the Clinton-mystique.. open your eyes, JK>read some
 BF> history regarding what Bill Clinton actually did JK>to this country and
the
 BF> world.. It was his administration JK>that drastically weakened the safety
 BF> nets in this country.

 BF> You got me thinking there, Janis.

She got me thinking, too.  And hopefully everybody.

 BF> Was it really?

Partly.  Cyber security is a major concern, not just for governments,
but also for businesses and private individuals.  Clinton's successor
underfunded many programs, including research and development needed
to upgrade what we had then.  The current administration has been
better, but dogged by an obstructionist Congress.

 BF> Or did he just not understand how the World Wide Web worked by then?

It is so much more than that.

 BF> Yeah, well, you as well as I know far more about the intrinsics of the WWW
 BF> than ever any of our politicians, so let's settle with that, OK?

In its current format, the WWW is much too limited.  And that makes
it easier for those who want to create mischief to do so.  We are not
prepared now as to how to deal with this.  Not enough cyber security
experts to handle the situation.

In the USA, the starting pay for an entry-level job dealing with
cyber security is $88,000 a year.  That is with no experience.
Companies and state governments are paying the tab for the cost
of education/training for those who want to work in this field.

 BF> I think I have thanked you before for helping me out with Thom's
restrictive
 BF> elist attitude against a Z2 moderator taking over a Z1 elisted echo.

I have never been against elists/echolists, or the use of them.
My argument has always been the misuse of such.  That is why I have
always condemned *the* elist/echolist.

Change that to *an* elist, or *an* echolist.  Nothing official
about *an* elist, or *an* echolist.  The number of which can be
infinite.

No elist/echolist should be misused/abused.  The way to do that
is make sure that no elist/echolist is regarded as being official.
A moderator is free to use, or not use, an elist/echolist.  And
no party allowed to place restrictions on a moderator (such as
forcing a moderator to "update" an echo every six months in
order to keep the echo).

 BF> To those who prefer to forget about all the shit that happened 15 years
ago,
 BF> let me just say that without the support from Janis I would never have
been
 BF> able to elist the FN_SYSOP echo in the first place. Janis really
understood
 BF> what it was all about by then.

Again, use of an elist/echolist is optional, not mandatory.
The problem is misuse/abuse has taken place, and continues to
take place, with the existing elist/echolist.

 BF> Kudos, Janis!  <3  <3  <3

Janis can be very helpful, when she wants to be.  But at this
stage, I think her candidate for president is beyond help.
On the other hand, so is mine.  So I guess we're all on the
same boat.  ;)

--Lee

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