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Text 37112, 79 rader
Skriven 2016-10-20 01:20:48 av Allen Prunty (1:2320/100)
  Kommentar till text 37107 av Mike Miller (1:154/30)
Ärende: Re: Debate Fright
=========================
On 10/19/16, Mike Miller said the following...
 
 MM>   She helped create CHIP which cut the number of America's uninsured
 MM> children by half.

More like road the coat-tails of Senators Ted Kennedy (D) and Orrin Hatch (R)
who really did the heavy lifting on the bill.

 MM>   She had the balls to stand up in China and say "Women's rights are
 MM> human right s" (was pretty controversial at the time)

A symbolic gesture... did she go to China... did she protest?  Anyone can
make a statement, but did she put actions to the words?

 MM>   She played a pretty big role in taking out Bin Laden
 
She was in the war room at the white house.  That's all we have concrete on
this.  

 MM>   She made LGBT rights a focus of US foreign policy

Yet she takes money for her foundation from countries who execute LGBT people.

 MM>   She successfully fought to increase research funding for prostate
 MM> cancer and a sma at the NIH

She certainly benefited from prostate cancer when Rudi Guliani withdrew his
candidacy from his '00 bid for the senate against her.  She did this out of
respect for him and I will give her points for this one.  But many on both
sides have fought the same fight.  She was one voice in a chorus of support
so I can't attribute this solely to her.

 MM>   She has done much for Veterans, including bringing attention to those
 MM> sufferin g Gulf War Syndrome

Yet I know many who are still suffering from it, waiting months to see a
doctor... and worse, not covered because they still deny it's real.  I lost a
cousin that suffered due to GWS just recently.  He did not receive adequate
care.

 MM>   She helped broker a ceasfire between Hamas and Israel and Burma

Burma... aka Myanmar?  

She removed that officially from her Biography earlier this year.

http://ijr.com/2016/02/528923-hillary-clinton-removes-hamas-israel-accomplishme
nts-from-biography/

On the campaign trail, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has
often touted her role in brokering the 2012 ceasefire between Israel and
Hamas, an accomplishment she listed on her official campaign website's
biography.

But in the wake of new surges of violence in Gaza, Clinton removed the
passage from her biography.

 MM>   You mentioned, of course, the First Responders bill already.

Again one voice in a chorus that was a no brainer passed by many on all sides
of the political fence.

 MM>   She has also been an activist on behalf of women and children, raising
 MM> the min imum wage as well as combating climate change.

Again one voice in a chorus of many.  I will give that she has done much for
women, but so has every first lady in the past 10 administrations.  The
minimum wage issue... again so many people have picked this up I can't
attribute this solely to her... climate change... Al Gore owns this one...
sorry riding the coat tails of another isn't an accomplishment in many
peoples eyes.

Let me rephrase the question... what has she UNIQUELY accomplished without
the collective efforts of others?

Allen

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