Text 5896, 116 rader
Skriven 2013-01-22 23:53:13 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.42)
   Kommentar till text 5883 av Nicholas Boel (17083.fidonews)
Ärende: Z4
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 ML> Z4 operations are none of anyone's business as long as they comply 
 ML> with current policy..

 NB> And if the nodelist entries aren't correct, is that complying with 
 NB> policy? 

what does policy have to say about it?

 ML> standing to complain... you cannot pick and choose which sections 
 ML> or subsection of policy you recognise, either... it is either all 
 ML> or none...

 NB> Agreed. Do you agree with that as well?

did i not write it to someone else to point it out to them specifically??

 NB>> -- if he polls your system on the hour, yet can't be contacted 
 NB>> most any other time?

 ML> and yet several of us have shown that his system can be...

 NB> And just as many have shows the opposite. Even more, probably. 

sounds like they might have a problem, then... they shouldn't play the lottery
in any case...

 ML> as do you... it takes two to tango... BTW: your reins are showing, 
 ML> too...

 NB> Yep. My reins of "I don't take shit from anyone" will always show.
 NB> Thank you for noticing. I didn't start it, but I'm not going to let
 NB> it ride, either. 

i was referencing your reins of being guided alone by others... as for who
started what, you'll have to be more specific if you want to continue... me?
i'm tired of it... you just hit things the wrong way tonight in here and at
least one other echo... we've been doing very well in other places, though...
why the ass had to come out again i do not know...

 ML> same back, man... you should adhere to your words before judging 
 ML> and convicting others...

 NB> I do adhere to my words, until someone jumps into a conversation to
 NB> divert the attention to something else. Which was done, an insult
 NB> was thrown at me, so I returned the favor.

obviously someone has misread something... i jumped because you were being
insulting... i didn't see anyone insult you before you started it... perhaps
your messages arrive in a different order but the quotes flowed smoothly in
order over here...

 ML> convicting others... our earlier runins are perfect examples and 
 ML> then you saw and accepted my posts and tutorials and even asked 
 ML> questions which you found were spot on... 

 NB> Wow are you arrogant. I didn't "see and accept" your posts. I just
 NB> stopped reading them, because you like to go off on tangeants and
 NB> tell stories about thing I really don't care about.

you saw and accepted my posts when it came to the technical configuration or
certain software and the explanations of why it was done that way... i'm not
talking about the posts in here where we were arguing... the later ones...
damn, talk about arrogance [SMH] look in the mirror some time, eh?

 NB> But if you think you're always right, you keep right on truckin'
 NB> dude! 

sorry but i know i'm not always right... hell, i thought i was wrong about
something one time but found out i was wrong about being wrong... others in
here, however, are always right and they never admit when they are wrong...

 ML> then, out of the blue, here you go again and have spun out of 
 ML> control when you should be working to maintain your previous 
 ML> control... don't take your frustations with others in your life 
 ML> out on those of us who have spent years enabling you and others to 
 ML> participate in this network... the saddest part is that "we" have 
 ML> to endure these attacks when "we" have spent our lives and $$$ 
 ML> enabling you to do so :? :/

 NB> And I guess you're going to say that I was out of control first
 NB> again, right 

you jumped on janis with no prodding or provocation that i saw...

 NB> (which was hardly the case)? I don't take my frustrations out here 
 NB> with others in my life. I take frustrations out directly with the 
 NB> person I'm frustrated with.

ummhummm...

 NB> The fact that you think you've done everyone a huge favor by
 NB> "enabling" others to participate in this network is hilarious.

"we" as in everyone who has been here since at least y2k and everyone who is
still here from the 80's and 90's have all enabled the network to exist...
without it, you wouldn't be here and neither would anyone else... THAT's the
enabling i mean... "we" enabled the politicos to use the network... "we"
enabled the technicians to create the software that "we" needed... "we" allowed
the users to abuse our systems to "get their mail" and "get their files"... yes
sir... "we" are enablers...

 NB> Just check the nodelist the past 10 years. Some of our beloved RCs
 NB> completely disregard new applicants, and offer them no help (won't
 NB> even watch their logs while they're speaking voice with the
 NB> applicant and check whether their netmail reply was sent to the
 NB> applicant). Yeah, good "enabling" there. :(

i don't know anything about that and have not seen anything posted in the
proper place concerning it... if this is part of what's stuck in your craw,
then spit it out and get another bite to chew on because obviously that one
ain't going down for some reason...

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