Text 7734, 99 rader
Skriven 2013-04-03 17:06:41 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 7727 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
Ärende: Fuck You and Z7
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Lee Lofaso wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>>> the English standard used around the world (Argentina, China,
 RW>>> India, Japan, etc.,

 WD>>> Used around the world? Hmmmm ...

 RW>> Yes, the world outside of Fidonet...some places, such as South
 RW>> Africa have made the language their Statutory national language by
 RW>> writing it into their Constitutions. i.e. South Africa's
 RW>> Constitution, Article 6(1). Singapore's, Constitution (amended),
 RW>> Article 153A(1)), India's, Constitution, Articles 343 and 348(1)),
 RW>> Hong Kong SAR (1997, Basic Law, Article 9), 1 (National). De facto
 RW>> national language.

 LL> The US does not have a national language.

On the contrary. It has several dialects, including African American
Vernacular English. But the USA has only one De Faco national language;
English.

 LL>   Nor should it. The same applies to individual states.

Wrong again.

 RW>> PS -  Sveden isn't among these countries who use the English
 RW>> langauge, in any dialect. There they have; Swenglish

 LL> English is more Swedish than English, if history is a guide.

LOL! English is a mix of several languages, German, Norse, a bit of French
and Latin included and some not included.

 LL> Three groups of Vikings settled England, today's English language
 LL> being a reflection of settlers from long ago.

Not...The Vikings were a conglomerate of three Scandinavian countrys,
Denmark was already a Western European settlement. Meanwhile, although
Norway and Sweden participated, the Svedes were not influential in western
europe. The Norse were more interested in Iceland and Greenland,
but were the Vikings that settled in what is called western France,
aka Normandy today...i.e. the Norwegians would prefer to leave the svedes
in Sveden and migrate westward (all the way to Newfoundland as it is
known today).

 RW>> (Swedish: svengelska) is a colloquial term meaning either:

 RW>>  English spoken with a heavy Swedish accent
 RW>>  English spoken or written as heavily influenced by Swedish
 RW>> vocabulary,
 RW>>  grammar, or syntax Swedish with many English words

 RW>> These are not anything like English Proper.

 LL> There is no such animal as "English Proper".

LoL! Tell that to the stupid svede who refers to 'English Proper' all the
time. His words, not mine although I'm inclined to repeat them so that he
can understand it better.

 RW>> Also, Swedish has many more monophthong vowels than English. This
 RW>> difference is sometimes disregarded by Swedish speakers (especially
 RW>> Felten), resulting in mispronunciation and usage. Swedish also
 RW>> lacks
 RW>> some common English phonemes, such as (voiceless dental
 RW>> fricative),(voiced dental fricative) and (voiced alveolar
 RW>> fricative).

 RW>> In general, written Swedish corresponds to the pronunciation more
 RW>> closely than in English. This too can lead to mispronunciation and
 RW>> incorrectly stressed words. (We've seen the latter in Felten's
 RW>> ramblings about HIS proper English. 8^) Frankly, I think his proper
 RW>> place would be in kindergarten-3rd grade of a Creol English course
 RW>> because he also uses Creol English to express himself, as in;

 RW>> Juliet: Moron, Moron, wherefore art thou?

 RW>> Felten: Here I is! (This is also Lofaso language)

 LL> Creole and Cajun are two very different languages,
 LL> neither of which is English.

Creole English is a creole language that was significantly influenced by
the English language.

Cajun English is significantly influenced by Cajun French, the historical
language of the Cajun people, direct descendants of Acadian French, which
differs somewhat from Metropolian or Parisian French in terms of
pronunciation and vocabulary; particularly because of the long isolation
of Acadians, and even more so Cajuns, from the Francophone world.

Got anymore arguements you would like to lose?


         R\%/itt


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