Text 7282, 54 rader
Skriven 2014-04-14 18:21:34 av Kees van Eeten (2:280/5003.4)
   Kommentar till text 7281 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
�rende: Byte Order Mark
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Hello Michiel!

14 Apr 14 18:02, you wrote to me:

 KE>>  That you put it in the middle of the text stream.
 MvdV> That is debateable.

 Indeed.

 KE>> The start of a fidonet message is after the binary part. For echomail
 KE>> that would be before the areas tag.

 MvdV> Some will argue that the message contains a binary header followed by
 MvdV> blocks of control lnes and text. The (UTF-8) text block starts after the
 MvdV> first block of control lines. Golded takes that POV:

 There is no rule that says, that the kludges have to be put in one section,
 before the "visible" text starts. Maintaining the POV of one product does not
 make it so. Besides it is a function of the editor to suppress lines, or
 not export lines that start with a ctrl-A.

 MvdV> Hexdump of message text:

 MvdV> 0000   EF BB BF 48  65 6C 6C 6F  20 4D 61 75  72 69 63 65
 MvdV> ô▀Õ×▀����Hello Maurice 0010   2C 0D 0D 53  75 6E 64 61  79 20 41
 MvdV> 70 72 69 6C 20  ,..Sunday April 0020   31 33 20 32  30 31 34 20  31 35
 MvdV> 3A 35 38 2C 20 49  13 2014 15:58, I 0030   20 77 72 6F  74 65 20 74  6F
 MvdV> 20 79 6F 75 3A 0D 0D   wrote to you:.. 0040   20 4D 4B 3E  3E 20 52 75
 MvdV> 73 73 69 61 6E 3A 20 20   MK>> Russian: 0050   D0 A3 20 D0  BC D0 B5 D0
 MvdV> BD D1 8F 20 D0 B2 20 D1  ðú ð▀ÕÝð��ðâ��Å ð▀ÖÓ �� 0060
 MvdV> 88 D1 82 D0  B0 D0 BD D0  B0 D1 85 20  D0 B1 D0 B5
 MvdV> ê��éð▀ÖÑðâð▀ÖÑ��à ð▀ÖÒð�� 0070   D0 BB D0 BA  D0 B0
 MvdV> 21 0D  20 4D 4B 3E  3E 20 47 65 ð▀Õ×ð▀ÕÑð▀ÖÑ!. MK>> Ge
 MvdV> 0080   72 6D 61 6E  3A 20 20 49  63 68 20 68  61 62 65 20  rman:  Ich
 MvdV> habe 0090   45 69 63 68  68 C3 B6 72  6E 63 68 65  6E 20 69 6E
 MvdV> Eichh▀��Ü��rnchen in 00A0   20 6D 65 69  6E 65 72 20  48 6F 73 65  21
 MvdV> 0D 20 4D   meiner Hose!. M

 MvdV> You see the byte order mark as the first three bytes of the text block.

 I can see that it is there, but that does not make it correct.

 MvdV> It would indeed mess up the tossing process, but it won't happen anyway.
 MvdV> The AREA tag is not present at this stage. It is inserted by the tosser
 MvdV> when exporting and removed again when importing the messsage into the
 MvdV> message base.

 That is implementation dependent, just as there are implementations that
 use the tag AREA: NETMAIL, to separate netmail from echo's.

Kees

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