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Skriven 2014-10-10 11:05:12 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
   Kommentar till text 7431 av Alexey Vissarionov (2:5020/545)
Ärende: FTSC-5001 question
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Hi Alexey,

>> 11:35:36.666699 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 44, id 23787, offset 0, flags [none],
>> proto TC P (6), length 55)
>> 71.30.81.243.23 > 72.43.242.234.41035
>> Telnet:
>> 0x0000:  fffb 03                WILL SUPPRESS GO AHEAD

>Ok, I see IAC WILL 03 here (IAC == Interpret As Command) from the called side.

>> 11:35:36.739953 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 44, id 23788, offset 0, flags [none],
>> proto TC P (6), length 70)
>> 71.30.81.243.23 > 72.43.242.234.41035:
>> Telnet:
>> 0x0000:  fffb 00                WILL BINARY
>> 0x0003:  fffb 00                WILL BINARY
>> 0x0006:  fffd 00                DO BINARY
>> 0x0009:  fffd 03                DO SUPPRESS GO AHEAD
>> 0x000c:  fffd 18                DO TERMINAL TYPE
>> 0x000f:  fffb 01                WILL ECHO

> Here I see even more options from the called side...

Yes, these are all options from telnet.h (/usr/include/arpa/telnet.h) Surely
you've look at that file.

>> 11:35:36.967000 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 51401, offset 0, flags [DF],
>> proto TCP (6 ), length 55)
>> 72.43.242.234.41035 > 71.30.81.243.23:
>> Telnet:
>> 0x0000:  fffb 18                WILL TERMINAL TYPE

> The calling side tells it will run in a fully bi-directional mode issuing
> select() on a connection socket every time when idle to check for data...

And _again_ from telnet.h above.

>> 11:35:37.039568 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 44, id 23790, offset 0, flags [none],
>> proto TC P (6), length 58)
>> 71.30.81.243.23 > 72.43.242.234.41035:
>> Telnet:
>> 0x0000:  fffa 1801 fff0         SB TERMINAL TYPE SEND SE

Again, from telnet.h!
/ * Definitions for the TELNET protocol.
#define SE      240             /* end sub negotiation */

> One more option from the called side... However, all these options:
> 1. are not related to each other (I guess, they are ignored by recipient)
> 2. appear only in "virtual modem" hadshake phase

They are all in telnet.h.

>> 11:35:42.407017 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 44, id 23793, offset 0, flags [none],
>> proto TC P (6), length 220)
>> 71.30.81.243.23 > 72.43.242.234.41035:
>>
>> 0x0000:  4500 00dc 5cf1 0000 2c06 5d04 471e 51f3  E...\...,.].G.Q.
>> 0x0010:  482b f2ea 0017 a04b 9d51 dff1 d35a f896  H+.....K.Q...Z..
>> 0x0020:  8018 8340 9a10 0000 0101 080a 0002 ccf5  ...@............
>> 0x0030:  11f6 315b 0d0d 4672 6f6e 7444 6f6f 7220  ..1[..FrontDoor.
>> 0x0040:  322e 3333 2e6d 4c2e 6232 2f41 4530 3030  2.33.mL.b2/AE000
>> 0x0050:  3036 363b 204d 756c 7469 4c69 6e65 0d0a  066;.MultiLine..
>> 0x0060:  0d0a 2a2a 454d 5349 5f4d 4435 3030 3146  ..**EMSI_MD5001F
>> 0x0070:  3c30 422e 3230 3134 3130 3039 3131 3335  <0B.201410091135
>> 0x0080:  3332 3936 2d46 726f 6e74 446f 6f72 3e41  3296-FrontDoor>A
>> 0x0090:  3132 350d 0a2a 2a45 4d53 495f 5245 5141  125..**EMSI_REQA
>> 0x00a0:  3737 450d 0d0d 0d0d 5072 6573 7320 3c45  77E.....Press.<E
>> 0x00b0:  7363 3e20 7477 6963 6520 666f 7220 4e6f  sc>.twice.for.No
>> 0x00c0:  2e20 416d 6572 6963 616e 2052 4120 5375  ..American.RA.Su
>> 0x00d0:  7070 6f72 7420 5369 7465 0d0d            pport.Site..

> Here goes usual EMSI handshake performed my mailers, without any Telnet
> sequences.

Yes, BBBS and Mark's mailer support EMSI with telnet connections.

>I'd like to ask you to perform a bit less trivial test: try to transfer a file
>containing 20...30 bytes with value 0xFF (and record the session with tcpdump,
>of course). If my suggestion is correct, that would prove telnet sequences are
> added by the FOSSIL layer, not by mailer.

 I don't run a fossil!

What does it matter if a shim is run on the other side?  I know that FD, by
itself will not run telnet sessions. I ran FD under DOS early on for years. In
it's original state, it is PHONE/MODEM mailer.

BBBS will though, out of the box. FD needs a shim. But once that shim is
running, a telnet connection can be run as you can see above.

I think you are pushing a lost cause here, Alexey.  JMHO.

Take care,
Janis

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