Text 9802, 240 rader
Skriven 2017-11-15 07:14:08 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.73)
   Kommentar till text 9800 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854.1)
Ärende: FTSC participation
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 On 2017 Nov 15 03:00:48, you wrote to me:

 ml>> interesting... i wonder who that was? is it any less bad that one of
 ml>> the candidates has threatened to DDoS other FTN systems off the 'net
 ml>> if they attempt to provide certain services or other communications
 ml>> methods??

 WD> Name names, show proof or shut up.

done... extraneous verbiage [CHOMP]ed out for brevity...


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 Msg  : 1539 of 4346                        Rcv
 From : Alexey Vissarionov                  2:5020/545      2012 09 26 10:10:00
 To   : mark lewis
 Subj : fts-5001.003
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@MSGID: 2:5020/545 50629c3a
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Good ${greeting_time}, mark!

25 Sep 2012 17:31:44, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

 MvdV>> It used to be fidonet.net, but the keeper(s) let the registration
 MvdV>> lapse en it was lost for the fidonet community.
 ml> i like this... it should also be noted that the current root-domain
 ml> to use is binkp.net for the FTN fidonet domain...

It is not. Should I initiate a small (2...3 Gbit/s) DDoS on

gremlin@hren:~ > host -t ns binkp.net
binkp.net name server ns.secondary.net.ua.
binkp.net name server ns9.grumbler.org.
binkp.net name server nsa.remotehost.spb.ru.
binkp.net name server happy.kiev.ua.

to prove that? Or didn't the story of fidonet.net teach people at least 
something about single points of failure and their avoidance?

That's why I strictly object against fixating any and all domains in the 
standards, and recommend using the phrase "publicly available DDN NS zones" 
instead.


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 Msg  : 1564 of 4346                        Rcv
 From : Alexey Vissarionov                  2:5020/545      2012 10 03 13:01:00
 To   : mark lewis
 Subj : fts-5001.003
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@REPLY: 1:3634/12.0 06b429a1
@MSGID: 2:5020/545 506bfecd
@CHRS: CP866 2
@TZUTC: 0400
Good ${greeting_time}, mark!

02 Oct 2012 15:39:40, you wrote to me:

[CHOMP]

 ml> at one time it was discussed to create a new line in the header of the
 ml> nodelist that indicates the default 'root-domain' for fidonet to use
 ml> for those folks with advanced enough software to be able to use such
 ml> additional capabilities... as long as historical methods and formats
 ml> are still accepted, i don't see a problem...

If any domain will be enforced, I'll do my best to kill it.


--
Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world
-!- /bin/vi
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 From : Alexey Vissarionov                  2:5020/545      2012 10 07 11:27:40
 To   : mark lewis
 Subj : fts-5001.003
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@REPLY: 1:3634/12.0 0706476f
@MSGID: 2:5020/545 50712eee
@CHRS: CP866 2
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Good ${greeting_time}, mark!

06 Oct 2012 17:29:06, you wrote to me:

[CHOMP]

 AV>> If any domain will be enforced, I'll do my best to kill it.
 ml> you mean like doing underhanded things like DDOSing the root servers
 ml> for the domain in question?? that's a real "nice thing" to do :(

Yes. And this is better than depending on a private resource.

 ml> i do not like your games like that which you have brought forth...
 ml> they are not in the spirit of fidonet and comms links...

Dependence on centralized private resources is even worse.


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 Msg  : 4242 of 4346                        Rcv
 From : Alexey Vissarionov                  2:5020/545      2017 08 08 10:16:20
 To   : mark lewis
 Subj : FTS-5001.006 draft 7
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Good ${greeting_time}, mark!

07 Aug 2017 22:03:16, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

[CHOMP]

 MV>> ,1000,netmail<->email_gate,central_NC_USA,UUCP,1-919-774-5930,33600,
 MV>> XA,V34,CM,ITN,IBN:ftn.wpusa.dynip.com,IVM,PING,U,UUCP
 ml> see above for the fnz conversion protocol to determine the system
 ml> address when one is not specifically written in the nodelist entry...
 ml> hint: f1000.n3634.z1.binkp.net

Imagine I'd kill binkp.net (that would take a couple of seconds with 20...30k 
hosts) and keep it dead for some time - 2 weeks for a "Hold", 2 weeks for a 
"Down" and... voila: these idiotic nodes would leave the nodelist :-)

 MV>> ,3000,wpusa_FTN_test_system,central_NC_USA,mark_lewis,-Unpublished-,
 MV>> 300,XA,ICM,ITN,IBN:ftn.wpusa.dynip.com,IVM,PING
 ml> see above for the fnz conversion protocol to determine the system
 ml> address when one is not specifically written in the nodelist entry...
 ml> hint: f3000.n3634.z1.binkp.net

Do you have some sort of dementia?
If yes, leave FTSC and visit a doctor instead.
If no, go kill yourself - that will make the world better.


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Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-cmlxxvii-mmxlviii

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 Msg  : 4258 of 4346                        Rcv
 From : Alexey Vissarionov                  2:5020/545      2017 08 09 10:52:24
 To   : mark lewis
 Subj : FTS-5001.006 draft 7
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@MSGID: 2:5020/545 598aca1a
@CHRS: CP866 2
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Good ${greeting_time}, mark!

08 Aug 2017 11:34:30, you wrote to me:

[CHOMP]

 AV>> Imagine I'd kill binkp.net (that would take a couple of seconds with
 AV>> 20...30k hosts) and keep it dead for some time - 2 weeks for a
 AV>> "Hold", 2 weeks for a "Down" and... voila: these idiotic nodes would
 AV>> leave the nodelist :-)
 ml> i doubt that... another service would come up to fill the void...

It would be laid down as well - DDoS is cheap to run and fast to settle.

[CHOMP]

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Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-cmlxxvii-mmxlviii

... :wq!
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