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Skriven 2009-02-07 21:26:52 av Ross Sauer (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 2239 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Mormons and racism
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"Ed Hulett -> God Dan" <1:123/789.0> wrote in
news:6294$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:

 GD>>> In fact, racism is reinforced in your book.

 EH>>> You don't know what you are talking about.

 GD>>    There is a reason why one man is born black and with other
 GD>> disadvantages,
 GD>> while another is born white with great advantages.  The reason
 EH>   is that GD> we once
 GD>> had an estate before we came here, and were obedient; more or
 EH>   less, to the GD> laws that were given us there.  Those who were
 EH>   faithful in all
 EH> things there
 GD>> [pre-existence] received greater blessings here, and those who
 EH>   were not GD> faithful received less.  . .  . There were no neutrals
 EH>   in the war in GD> Heaven.
 GD>> All took sides either with Christ or with Satan.  Every man had
 EH>   his agency GD> there, and men receive rewards here based upon their
 EH>   actions there,
 EH> just as
 GD>> they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body.
 EH> The Negro,
 GD>> evidently, is receiving the reward he merits.

 EH> You just quoted (without attribute) the words of a man and not the
 EH> words of any scripture. The above is *NOT* and never has been part of
 EH> sacred LDS scripture or teachings.

From your own damn "holy" book, Ed.
And if you still deny that your church *WAS* a bunch of racist pigs
after seeing this, it'll prove that you are a fundy liar.
Remember back in the "good old days" in this echo, Laurie (pronounced
Larry) Appleton, who lived in Australia?
He was a die-hard lying young-Earth creationist.
And every time he had his "facts' debunked, he'd bring them right back.



1 Nephi 11:8 And it came to pass that the Spirit said unto me: Look! And
I looked and beheld a tree; and it was like unto the tree which my
father had seen; and the beauty thereof was far beyond, yea, exceeding
of all beauty; and the whiteness thereof did exceed the whiteness of the
driven snow.

1 Nephi 11:13 And I beheld the city of Nazareth; and in the city of
Nazareth I beheld a virgin, and she was exceedingly fair and white.

1 Nephi 12:23 And it came to pass that I beheld, after they had dwindled
in unbelief they became a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full
of idleness and all manner of abominations. (Joe Smith calls dark
skinned people ugly, filthy, lazy, and perverts.)

1 Nephi 13:15 And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the
Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their
inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and
beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.

2 Nephi 5:21 For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him,
that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white,
and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing
unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon
them.

2 Nephi 30:6 And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is
a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness
shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass
away among them, save they shall be a pure white (1830 edition) and a
delightsome people.

Jacob 3:8 O my brethren, I fear that unless ye shall repent of your sins
that their skins will be whiter than yours, when ye shall be brought
with them before the throne of God.

Alma 3:6 And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark
which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of
their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who
consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy
men.

3 Nephi 2:15 And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became
white like unto the Nephites.

Mormon 5:15 And also that the seed of this people may more fully believe
his gospel, which shall go forth unto them from the Gentiles; for this
people shall be scattered, and shall become a dark, a filthy, and a
loathsome people, beyond the description of that which ever hath been
amongst us, yea, even that which hath been among the Lamanites, and this
because of their unbelief and idolatry.

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