Text 2536, 70 rader
Skriven 2009-02-11 19:35:29 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 2504 av God Dan (1:138/666.0)
Ärende: Muslim lawyer brands Chri
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God Dan -> JOHNJWILSON wrote:
 ->> On 10 Feb 09  19:51:12, JOHNJWILSON got back to GOD DAN
 ->> Re: Muslim lawyer brands Chri

 ->> It's part of your basic teachings, Ed.
 JO>> Name one current  official LDS doctrine that espouses racism.I said
 JO>> current.

 GD> This is still in use:

 GD> LDS Church warns Young Men against Interracial Marriage
 GD> Posted by John on June 28th, 2008 at 2:44 pm ú 35 Comments

That is a lie. A very good friend of mine is in a mixed marriage and has been
married for many years and have grandchildren. He converted to LDS to marry his
wife. He is white and she is black.

 GD>     "We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial
 GD> background generally, and of somewhat the same economic and social and
 GD> educational background (some of those are not an absolute necessity, but
 GD> preferred), and above all, the same religious background, without
question"
 GD> ("Marriage and Divorce," in 1976 Devotional Speeches of the Year [Provo:
 GD> Brigham Young University Press, 1977], p. 144).

This says nothing about warning against interracial marriage. It is a
recommendation given the treatment interracial married couples run into.

The friend I refer to above has ran into more hate and poor treatment from
those outside the Church than from inside. In fact he and his wife hold
leadership positions in the Ward they live.

 JO>> Your quote does not describe the racism you want to see.
 JO>> The Past racism of Jefferson, Lincoln...that bother you?

 GD> Of course it does.  But that is not the topic.

The "topic" is your repeated attempt to attack me for my membership in the LDS
Church.

 JO>> World-wide there are 400,000 black Mormons. Why do you suppose that
 JO>> is?

 GD> And, just how many in the US?

Take a look at www.blacklds.org and you should find your answers.

 GD> Percentage-wise, there should be about 2 million black Mormons in
 GD> the US alone.  They come up a little bit short even using the
 GD> world-wide figure.

What on earth are you talking about? Are you trying to imply that the LDS
Church should be an exact cross-section of the US population? Do you hold any
other church to that standard? How about the Trinity Church of Christ? Should
black membership be reduced to 12% of the total?

Ed

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