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Skriven 2006-11-26 16:40:54 av MATT CLARK (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av BOB ACKLEY
Ärende: CAUSES OF WAR - MATERIALISM
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   This is an edited version of a message I just posted..
   I added some other facts that need to be factored into 
   your equation.
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MC> The Crusades was a defensive action brought on by years of muslim 
MC> encroachment into Europe.  If you have an issue about religion being
MC> a  cause for war, and indeed sometimes it has, then look to the
MC> Muslims as  well.  That's why they invaded Europe and ultimately got
MC> their butts  kicked in the end for it. Pun intended.

BA>  The Crusades were an effort sponsored by the Catholic faith 
BA>  (and some kings) to recapture the "holy land" from the Islamics. 

BA>  But the statement that organized religion is responsible 
BA>  for more deaths than any other non-natural cause is true.

Utter hogwash.  The ENTIRE world population during the Crusades period,
which was around 1090 - 1300 AD, is estimated to be around 450 to 500
million people.  More people died as a direct result of Wold War II (62 
million) than the number of Muslims occupying Europe at that time, by far.
Even if ALL the Muslims in Europe were wiped out, your claim would still 
be ridiculous.

Again when you throw in WW I, The American Civil War, Chinese Civil War, 
Russian civil wars/revolutions, etc, etc, your claim is, at best, 
still ridiculous. 


As for the Aztecs, their ENTIRE POPULATION didn't even approach the number
of people killed in WW II (let alone all of those other wars not fought 
over religion).  And they were killed for their gold and territory.  

Also, the various sicknesses brought over by the Spaniards, like Smallpox,
was largely responsible for the deaths of the Aztecs.  And if it will make 
you feel any better, the various indians also gave the Spaniards diseases
they had no immunity for which cause many of them to die.


Again, the Spaniards didn't come clear across the Atlantic ocean and devote 
all that time, effort and resources just because they had some 'issue'
about 
religion concerning the Aztecs.  Had religion really factored into it, they 
would have tried to convert them, not kill them.

Most wars are wagered by materialistic-atheists who often hide behind the
pretext of religion.  Rarely is a war fought just because someone else 
happenes to have a different religion...except in the Muslim world, 
of course.


BA>  The Crusades, incidentally, overall were a complete failure.

If there was any significant truth to that at all, Europe would be 
speaking Arabic, the main religion would be Islam, not Catholic or 
Protestant, and the bulk of the population would be Arab.  Further, they 
would be cutting off hands for stealing, and killing woman for cheating, 
etc, etc,   A "complete" failure???????

Again, you sound like someone who took his history professor seriously.
Another dope-smoking left wing scrooge with a pony tail?
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