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Skriven 2007-02-08 07:51:58 av Frank Vest (1:124/6308.1)
     Kommentar till en text av ROSS SAUER
Ärende: Hell?
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On (08 Feb 07) ROSS SAUER wrote to FRANK VEST...

Hello ROSS,

FV> RS> "Proving" a negative is impossible.
 RS> FV>True. But it can be a challenge ... and if accomplished, the former
 RS> FV>negative becomes a positive. <smile>

 RS> It is an impossibility.

No. It is a difficulty. Things previously believed to be impossible
have been proven before. Impossible is only in the mind.

 RS> I can make a claim, and say, "Prove me wrong!"

Yes, you can. And I might be able to. What then?

 RS> Obviously, you can't.

Can't what? Prove you wrong? Prove the impossible? Science has been
proving things for a long time. Many of which were believed to be
impossible on non-existent.

FV> RS> *YOU* dummy, claim your "place of eternal torment" exists.
FV> RS> That puts all the onus on you, to back up your claim.
 RS> FV>And you claim it doesn't. Where does that put the onus?

 RS> On the person making the claim.

Very good. And you make a counter claim that must be proven as well.
Prove your counter claim.

FV> RS> And you have yet to, and never will.
FV> RS> I can make a similar claim for you, right now.
FV> RS> In your residence is an invisible, intangible unicorn.
FV> RS> Prove it isn't there.
 RS> FV>Prove it is there. You make the claim. The onus is on you. It could
 RS> FV>be true, you know.
 RS> FV>Can you prove that hell, as described in the Bible, doesn't exist?
 RS> FV>You claim it doesn't. That puts the onus on you.

 RS> I could claim also that Santa's workshop is at the North Pole.
 RS> Can you prove me wrong?

The onus is on you. You made the claim.

 RS> I have several games for my video game systems, with a small purple
 RS> dragon as the protagonist.
 RS> Prove that dragon doesn't exist.

Prove that it does. Can you feel it? Is it tangible? It exists in the
electronics and electricity and other parts that create it. It is
little more than a belief and will end when the power that creates it
is removed. Much the same is the belief and existence that is created
in the human mind. It exists as long as there is power to keep it in
existence. That is the war that is being fought. The believers are
trying to keep the existence and the non-believers are trying to
remove the power that keeps the existence in existence. Massive death
on both sides is the result ... but if you desire, keep playing the
game.


Claims and counter claims are all that this thread is. None is really
provable at this time. But since you and the others obviously enjoy
the arguments, cursing and fighting that it brings, please continue.
At least it is safe in here ... for the moment.

Have a wonderful day.

Regards,
Knarf


http://collincountystation.com

Disclaimer:
You realise, of course, that I could be wrong?


... Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men: Jean
Rostand

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