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Text 296, 62 rader
Skriven 2006-04-19 20:10:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
    Kommentar till text 289 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Ärende: none
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Hello Roy.

19 Apr 06 09:38, you wrote to me:


 MvdV>> In a decent referendum there is a quorum. Set in advance and
 MvdV>> measured as a percentage of eligible voters.

 RW> That wouldn't be a decent referendum,

It is the only kind of decent referendum.

 RW> it would be one that would never make changes.

It will if enough people are interested.

 RW> Just like the policy rules for changing P4.

There are good reasons why P4 is set up that way. The reason we failed to chage
P4 is not the limitations set up by P4, but that not enough people want the
change badly enough.

 RW>>> Which should be the same for the 'referendum' in the Russian
 RW>>> situation.

 MvdV>> Indeed. But apparently wasn't as no quporum was set in advance.

 RW> There was none required.

There should have been and for once I agree with the ZCC for rejection if
because of the low turn out.

 MvdV>> In the case of effie, "properTy" does not equate to "elegible
 MvdV>> to vote".

 RW> Yes it does. Being nodelisted made them elegible to vote,

No, it did not. Having posted in a certain time frame was an additional
requirement.

 RW> , it meant that in the beginning,

That rule was already in effect when you were elected moderator.

 MvdV>> Every nodelisted sysop is c-owner. To be elegible to vote
 MvdV>> one must have posted in the six month prior to the election.

 RW> This wasn't the case until recently. You're ignoring the facts

No, you are ignoring the facts and distorting them.

 RW> and are attempting hide that it was Z2 who stuffed the echo with
 RW> voters that caused that rule to be made.

Wrong. The "must have posted" rule was in effect long before the alleged
"stuffing" took place. Long before there were enough Z2 participants to matter.


Michiel

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