Text 419, 63 rader
Skriven 2006-04-24 20:22:33 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
    Kommentar till text 416 av Vladimir Donskoy (6:770/92)
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*** Quoting Vladimir Donskoy from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS>> It's my belief until shown otherwise, that Vladimir isnt lying

VD>  MvdV>> I am not saying that he is lying.

 CS>> and that this 'referendum' was widely known in R50.

VD>  MvdV>> That is just conjecture.

 CS> Conjecture, to 'guess'.  IE:  in your use of the wording, LIE.  I have no
 CS> reason to believe Vladimir is lying and that this 'referendum' was as
 CS> widely known as he has stated.

VD> Ask another R50's sysops! Or ask returning officer, and you will have
VD> information about send netmails to _all_ R50's sysops.

Grin, i could but for now, I see no reason to not take you at your word for it.
While we may not have always agreed on everything, i see no sense of you ever
having been untruthful.  At the most, you present things from your own point
of view and at worst, i may have trouble understanding it so have to ask for
more words to understand it.

I am as hot headed sometimes as the next.  I just cut feeds after 2 years to
the Zone7 echo.  See, me and another interested ZC were listening and hoping
for some info and finally we sent a total of 3 messages in *gasp* english just
saying hello.  We got told to take it to netmail.  Fine.  One more bridge
burned by any who wanted a Z7 was to take the only 2 ZC's listening and tell
them to take it to netmail.  Kinda like having cold mashed turnips shoved up
your nose.

Seriously Vladimir, if even the Z7 echo folks dont want to allow a person to
say 'hello' when one of them is the ZC they may want to move to, what are the
rest of us to think?

 CS> as i can tell.  I object to you making it look like he is.  I suggest a
 CS> far better way to learn about how he is thinking, is to just ask him
 CS> without insulting him internationally.

 CS> (Vlad, apologies.  I know you can stand on your own but am not su
 CS> picked up that he insulted you.  All the folks who use english as a first
 CS> language though probably picked up on it).

VD> I am suffer enough and tolerant to try to explain a thing, not clear t
VD> him. As, probably, not only he does not see a true state of affairs...

Michiel is 'unique'.  He's a good person in many ways but has little tolerance
for the thoughts of others if they challange any concepts he has held deeply.
Your very idea of shifting some of Z2 to another zone (7 or other) challanges
those parts deeply it seems to me.  Like me, he reacts negatively to change
ideas at the start but unlike me, he seldom changes that stance.  I do after
thinking further, often do change a stance.

Grin, kinda like he's a rock and I'm a snowflake.  Fortunately, folks like
snowflakes in whatever form they are in at the moment.

Sorry if I reacted before you did. Perhaps you would have preferred to let it
ride (let it alone without comment) but it upset me.  It was 'unjust' and that
always will set me off.
                                       xxcarol

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