Text 11413, 89 rader
Skriven 2008-03-22 18:33:06 av Robert Fowler (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 11408 av Maurice Kinal (1:261/38)
Ärende: tumbling tumbleweed
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Maurice Kinal -> Jeff Bowman wrote:
 MK> Hey Jeff!

 >> The web didn't start taking off for the general public until after
 >> the BBS had already started to die.

 MK> Then what makes you think that Fido belongs on the web?  If a Fido node
 MK> is a web address how does make it any different than any other web
 MK> server out there that isn't a Fido node?

The attrition among Fido sysops virtually destroyed the distribution
network, at least with respect to users having access to local dial
in boards. Net after net died, despite the resistance of Fidonet to
move to the net (not necessarily the web).

As you know, most of the software for running boards was DOS based, and
not capable of being easily moved to the net.  Commercial development
of BBS software ceased to be lucrative, and hence ceased.

At least with internet distribution, anyone with net access could
participate. While some sysops have opted to maintain TELNET access
or even HTTP access boards, others think the move to the still
viable newsgroup format the simplest, most straightforward solution.

I should point out another obstacle that hasn't been mentioned.  Most
personal ISP accounts expressly prohibit any type of web hosting in
their service agreements.  They have and will block port access to
enforce the terms.  Requiring sysops to have a business account
would be the coup de grace. :-(

Oh well, enjoy it while it's here. :-)

Regards,

Robert Fowler



 >> You don't always have your favorite editor handy.

 MK> Always whereas a browser not so much.  Sometimes when building a new
 MK> system I forget to put in a browser.  Same with email client(s).
 MK> Sometimes weeks can go by before I get around to it whereas that isn't
 MK> true with an editor.  The web could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't
 MK> shed a tear over it and still use the internet much the same as I have
 MK> been all along even before the web came into existance.  I cannot say
 MK> the same about an editor other than to say I could get along without one
 MK> but it would be a pain in the ... errrrr ... you know.

 >> Another big advantage is the ability to use stuff like Java-based
 >> VNC, telnet, and SSH clients.

 MK> Don't need java for any of that.

 >> Sometimes a web browser is the only tool you have.

 MK> I seriously doubt that.  I'd sooner use cat, cp, etc.  To me a browser
 MK> is only good for browsing and nothing else.

 >> Java != Javascript.

 MK> I know but I think you have it backwards not that it really matters.
 MK> Anyhow it still has little to do with the original criticism about Fido
 MK> messaging, or at least I hope that is still true, else all is lost.

 >> You haven't looked at many web forums if you think that, I'm afraid.

 MK> If the truth be told I an listed as an admistrator of one.
 MK> http://www.minimalinux.org/forum  Also I started www.minimalux.org ages
 MK> ago when I was still a Fido sysop.  Also have admistrated ftp sites
 MK> before all that.  You must have missed the part of my last response
 MK> where I said I had access to the internet before there was ISP's
 MK> nevermind web sites on the internet.

 >> To each his own I suppose!  As long as you truly enjoy your way then
 >> more power to you.

 MK> I can deal with anything.  I am extra special.  :-)

 MK> Now back to the original subject;  Why do Fido messages need html tags?

 MK> Life is good,
 MK> Maurice

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