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Skriven 2009-09-19 11:11:55 av Russell Tiedt (5:7105/1)
Kommentar till text 13223 av Maurice Kinal (1:261/38)
Ärende: brave and undaunted was young brennan on the moor
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Hello Maurice.
18 Sep 09 14:00, you wrote to me:
MK> None of the below has anything to do with ttylinux. Just want to
MK> establish this for the record. Might be minimalinux, whatever that
MK> means. I am beginning to wonder though.
:-)
MK> That's a good idea. Take your time. Definetly no rush on my account.
MK> As for the bios upgrade I don't have much faith that it'll have the
MK> desired result. I doubt it is really worth it anyhow, or at least not
MK> from my perspective.
Well, if all I get is that it boots with the SD card inserted, that is enough,
if it boots from the SD card well great ...
>> Only wish for it, is as a remote for my music server,
MK> If it had the drive space it might be worth it but given the
MK> limitations I have serious doubts. To do it right I'd want
MK> hotswapping sata drives as well as a beefier cpu to handle all the
MK> processing in real time so that the clients would only need to play
MK> the result. That way the server takes care of the workload without
MK> actually requiring any of the toys - such as a soundcard - and the
MK> clients wouldn't require a beefy cpu since all the real work is
MK> already done and then they could worry about all the crow bait type
MK> hardware that is a waste on a server. No?
All that will be required of it is to run FireFax and it's plug-in called
Minion, and it will be fine, which it does .... , the CPU is fine for serving
as well, provided it does not have to do realtime sample rate conversion ... ,
besides, the non-realtime sample rate converters sound better ...
MK> Hm. Come to think of it I might want some sort of input on the
MK> server. A delta 1010 might look good on there. <BEG>
You have no idea how tempted I was, and, well if the finances where up to it,
I'd probably have gotten one instead ... :-(
MK> I tested it with the kernel's ath5k and it seems to work. Not much
MK> range on it but it does okay. I think the usb based zd1211rw is way
MK> better. Also if you need that to go into hostap mode the madwifi
MK> drivers would be a better choice than the kernel driver, I hate to
MK> admit but unfortunetly true.
Well, as long as I can get 8-10 meters line of sight out of it, it will be
fine ... , doudt I'll need more than that ...
>> Well, you might want classical music in the lounge rock music
>> somewhere else and Jazz in some other location
MK> Obviously you've never been to my place. It is too small to make that
MK> idea desirable, nevermind doable. As for you, I'd strongly suggest
MK> you get one thing working before worrying about multiple differing
MK> feeds. ;-)
As obviously, you don't have children with vastly differing music tastes on
your network either ... :-)
Well once one "setup" works, adding the extra's is very easy ...
MK> Samba for sure. Man that is an overbloated piece of ... errr ... you
MK> know what. I doubt it is smaller than nfs and all it's needed tools
MK> but if you need ssh anyhow, as well as glib, then adding the sshfs
MK> idea to the mix might be a better option then nfs. However I don't
MK> see a need for any of this if the files are all resident on the server
MK> and it can take care of all the processing. I would put things like
MK> ecasound and sox, and all their dependencies on the server and leave
MK> the client(s) with just the playing tools. However I might wish to
MK> capture from whatever machine has the best soundcard and stream that
MK> to the server for later processing. I still wouldn't think sshfs would
MK> be a requirement but perhaps you might.
Yes, I know SAMBA is overbloated whatever, but it is the only way to share
files win WIN-whatever boxes, as the don't have SSHD or NFS servers available
to them ...
>> Well, there be a lot of players that have remote controls
MK> True but usually that is just a little keypad sort of dealie and not
MK> an entire computer.
Hmmm ... yes, but think how difficult it would be to see what music is
available on the server, and to choose which songs one wants to listen to ...
MK> Okay. I forget which kv I had when the Revolution was onboard but
MK> offhand that sounds close enough. There hasn't been a alsa version
MK> update since then so it might be alright. However I don't know much
MK> about Ubuntu since I never use it. All I know for sure is that the
MK> envy24 worked excellent, far better than any other soundcard I've
MK> heard lately. All the IO worked although I wasn't happy about the
MK> mini jacks, especially for line in.
Ubuntu is a reasonable distro, as far as distro's go ...
The envy24 soundcards appear to be the best middle ground cards, i.e. at the
bottom of the heap, are the various onboards, then the cheapie PCI cards, then
the envy24 class, then to get something significantly better you jump from
$200 to $700-$800 class. <sigh>
>> Also ecasound has been highly reccomended,
MK> I will have to agree. sox is great for ogg if you care about anything
MK> greater than 48kHz sample rates. Other than that I'd go with
MK> ecasound.
SOX seems to be the better sample rate converter ... , and I want to play at,
at least 96kHz and possibly as high as 192kHz ...
>> i.e. pipe, alsa's output via ecasound for best quality sound
MK> Probably true. I was more concerned about input when I played with
MK> all this. In that regard ecasound did an excellent job. Used flac as
MK> the captured format and then anything else, such as ogg, generated
MK> from the original flac file. Worked out really good I thought.
Apparently input does not work with my card, by all reports, output only under
Linux, but hopefully that will change soon ...
>> As for a target, the 2gig cfdisk ... , P3 - 512M RAM ...
MK> I already have most of what your wishlist specifies working in around
MK> 300M. Even with the few additions I can't see it taking up more than
MK> 400M tops. Heck even with xorg I could still get that in under 800M
MK> with windowmaker and :::shiver::: seamonkey.
Not bad .... <VBEG>
Depending on how things work out here, I am either going to install Ubuntu
Studio, or a minimal Ubuntu install from which to build a Audio Sever System
from scratch on ... , the one requires I find a DVD drive I can "borrow" and
the other a reasonable amount of internet bandwidth ...
>> mpd -- compiled so that pipes work ...
MK> I'll leave that up to you. I have no use for it.
<VBG> --- pity
>> cuetools
>> shntool
MK> Never heard of these.
Not unexpected ... :-)
>> wavpack
MK> Why this one?
Because some friends like it
>> libmad
MK> Hm. I think this one might be broken or at least questionable. It
MK> does build though.
A dependencie, that I have not yet been able to find a replacement for ...
>> cdparanoia
>> cdrecord
MK> May as well throw in the dvd tools stuff as well.
Probably, tho I might have unfounded concerns regarding cdparanoia working
well with current DVD drives, as CD drives are now nigh on un-obtainable ...
MK> I don't envy you one little bit. Mine - both females - are all grown
MK> up and on their own. I do miss them though.
Well, after looking after them so long, it is understandable ... :-))
Russell
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